cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/35232665
I say, this, after weighing the words carefully in my mind, and with a profound sense of empathy for what it means, but – good. Maybe most of the people in these areas are so deeply ingrained that they can’t tell right from left, but at some point when the pain is too much, at some point when the desperation and bitterness and anger is leading to no action and no results, at some point they will realize that their mayors who are Republican and their county representatives are Republican and their state legislators are Republican and their governors are Republican and their congressional representatives are Republican and their president is Republican. At some point there would be a break, hopefully, in their Great Wall of ignorance and stupidity for some light to shine through. And while I fervently agree with most of them on how much I hate the national Democratic Party and it’s neoliberal corporate subserviency, That’s something different has to come about for us to get somewhere out of this hell scape.
Most supporters of the Nazis went to the grave believing their cause was just. Whether it was on the battlefield, at the end of a firing squad, or decades later of old age.
They let go of their aspirations and public support because they were forced to, at the end of a gun.
People have been waiting for this break to happen since the 90s.
It’s not happening.
At some point there would be a break, hopefully, in their Great Wall of ignorance and stupidity for some light to shine through.
There won’t be. The media that they consume will just tell them that Democrats or Mexicans or Muslims or trans athletes are to blame for their problems, and they’ll believe it.
That would require educating yourself and questioning the entire paradigm you have lived in your entire life. And this hypothetical awakening would only happen after being faced with the consequences of falling further into poverty. Big doubt it.
It would take a 5-10 year depression for enough of them to reach the point that it would make a meaningful difference. Seriously.
Look at how it went last time. FDR and then his vice president created a 20-year presidential legacy following Hoover’s complete mismanagement of the Great Depression. After that came the 5-star general who defeated Hitler (who ran as a Republican in order to block an isolationist candidate farther on the right), then back to Democrats for another eight years—until giving black people equal rights was a bridge too far for Southern Democrats.
Basically, Trump would need to destroy this country economically, and have that ruination take hold for many years, before real charge can happen.
I mean he is going to do that, and the recovery won’t come to those places because they’re already economic dead ends. We need to focus on getting people who aren’t MAGA out and let them rot in the misery they bring in themselves. History is full of ghost towns, we’re just going to see some more that’s all. The rest of America will be able to recover and ditch these nonsense people and their broken politics
“They will cheer for the naked emperor as they suffer,” one commenter wrote on Bluesky. “Because they will be told that the cities are hellscapes with out-of-control migrant crime.”
Time for today’s reminder that financial hardship will not discourage loyalty to trump, rather hardships will fuel fascist agendas.
I think we’re seeing too short term with that perspective. It won’t discourage their loyalty in time for them to do anything about it. By the time they turn on Dear Leader, there will be little recourse to recover the country they once had. Driving out the rural populations so that conglomerates can pick up all the farm land and consolidating people fully into metro areas isn’t a far cry from Hunger Games districts establishing
They were damaged by the last administration. And the Bush administration. Their states are the ones which are hellholes that get shittier and shittier with jobs leaving out and poorer and poorer. It becomes more difficult to actually leave red states because affording to get the fuck out is nearly impossible. When they vote on something that makes things better, the state government overrides them saying they didn’t know what they were voting on.
YET THEY ALWAYS VOTE THIS WAY
They will not figure it out. They are lost to the cult. I don’t know what fucking Piece of Eden the republicans got hold of to control them but holy fuck living in a red state is just like that comic up there, they look at the person who says they hate them and says “He tells it like it is.”
It becomes more difficult to actually leave red states because affording to get the fuck out is nearly impossible.
Not just affordability. My kid is in college for education and has already been warned about the trade off with moving somewhere cheap but also with lower education standards, lower pay, lower respectability for educators. Republicans might be ok with the brain drain helping them stay in power, but I don’t see how the residents are ok with being left further and further behind
I mean, these guys are getting all their ideas from Curtis Yarvin. The oligarchs are going to build large city-states that use shitcoins for money and have omnipresent surveillance apparatus, with full control over resources and utilities. They’ll have private security as well as the entire US military on speed dial in the case of an uprising(See: Battle of Blair Mountain). Hundreds if not thousands of petty fiefdoms where a monarch-like CEO is in charge and everyone else is an employee of the company/government. The only job likely to available is running on giant hamster wheels to power a giant shitcoin mining rig.
This. I’ve worked in rural areas with people who only went to a larger city once every three months or so. The only news they consumed was fox news and whatever shit on FB. They were absolutely 100% convinced that the cities were lawless hellscapes and any decent person would be immediately flagged and destroyed 0.3 seconds after entering the city limits. I mean, Modesto sucks, but come on. Deadass, some of them would talk about a time someone walked too close to them like they were retelling the events of Black Hawk Down. In fairness, I think it’s more to do with the fact that they’ve been so filled with propaganda that the only part of their brain that hasn’t been scooped out to make room for more propaganda is the limbic system.
A lot of those places are too far gone. We need to take away their economic power so that they can’t hurt the rest of them as much. 1/3 of this country is just gone and we need to realize we need to leave them behind and save the people who live next to them aren’t total pieces of shit
And they’ll blame The Libs like always
Checking my local newspaper, turning on the TV, and logging into my favorite social media. Everywhere I go it’s the same message - liberals are to blame.
What other conclusion am I supposed to draw?
Critical thinking without useful information is just teleology. You’re stuck doing Thomas Acquinus shit or Aristotilianisn when you have an abundance of analytical skill but you’re working from fundamentally biased or outright manufactured sources.
A few weeks ago, they all seemed to be operating from the same exact talking points and it seemed to be “yeah, it’s regrettable what is happening, but we are dealing with this terrible economy that Biden handed us…”
Which is weird, because the economy was doing just fucking fine before donvict started working to break government, threaten our allies and go into a stupid trade war with everyone.
Yea, if those libs didn’t skip out on voting Kamala cause she’s pro genocide, this never would have happened!
I’d add /s, but somehow I see maga fucks being okay with this excuse.
I can’t tell what’s happening here, are you being sassy because people aren’t pro genocide?
“The turkeys in red hats voted for Thanksgiving”
Good. They literally voted for this. We all warned them, the signs were all there. They chose not to listen or believe us. They brought this in themselves and I’m gonna relish, popcorn in hand, as the leopards devour their faces.
This is the America that Conservatives demanded.
