Originally Posted By u/Particular_Log_3594 At 2025-03-23 11:53:01 AM | Source


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This is why democrats lost. They don’t care what their base wants.

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The republicans fear their base, the democrats loathe their base.

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Republicans definitely loathe their base

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Maybe, but the fear prevents them from expressing as much; they regularly change their positions and messaging to match whatever the rabid hogs that make up the core of their base are baying for.

Meanwhile democrats see it as a virtue to stand up to their base. West Wing has done irreparable damage to their brains.

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they fear and loath them.

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that because republicans will stop voting for them in a hearbeat; while democrats will also vote blue no matter who … and what.

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Dems literally just lost because their base didn’t show up what are you talking about?

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Did DNC lose if most pro Israel candidate won?

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Exactly, this is why Chuck and Jefferies are making these plays while AOC is literally campaigning with an Independent candidate.

This is why Marshals weren’t sent after Trump

This is why no Cases against election tampering were brought up. And no recount was called.

This is why Korne, these ridiculous illegal deportations, and near complete obliteration of the federal government is allowed.

Because Kamala could not have gotten away with letting Israel go hog wild like this. Corpo Dems can save face by saying that was Trump!

But Schumer is an idiot and he basically admitted that what Netanyahu is doing is what the Corpo Dems wanted. Between his goofy ass book tour and his “My job is to make sure the DNC stays pro-Isreal” it’s all laid out in the open.

He’s hoping the strangle hold idea that “we can’t make or split the party” will keep the party together and behind his leadership. But if AOC said tomorrow that she was starting a new party because that DNC leadership will no longer oppose Trump and laid out proofs. I’d jump ship immediately. I’m hoping she and other get enough momentum that the party can fracture. Because that is the only way to get the country back, a complete rejection of Corpos.

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Because Kamala could not have gotten away with letting Israel go hog wild like this.

We should have ruined her day by electing her president. We let her lose, and now she’s laughing at us. We played right into her trap.

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This is why Marshals weren’t sent after Trump

Before Oct 7th, thinking was Trump would be best opponent to prop up. We’d have a better democracy if he was in military prison/trials he couldn’t indefinitely delay, or he had fallen out of a window.

no Cases against election tampering were brought up. And no recount was called.

Big evidence of DNC being pro Trump, or not enough zionist funding against election rigging.

illegal deportations, and near complete obliteration of the federal government is allowed.

Not sure I see the link to Israel there. CIA propaganda defunding would be neutral. Foreign policy abuses are likely designed to control genocide tolerance. All colonies have distanced further from Russia and China. Peace against Russia, has explicitly cited “meeting point victories” for controlling Iran.

Because that is the only way to get the country back, a complete rejection of Corpos.

US elections require massive money. Actual “only way out” is to declare Zionism a hate group, and invalidate citizenship/office of any politician supporting zionism, and zero out wealth of any donors/media supporting them. It is only path to neutralize money that is used to brainwash us.

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i think the Ds were banking on letting GOP be the lightning rod for the cause/damage they do, and come in and save the day. its backfiring.

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Biden/Harris wasn’t willing to shut down free speech at universities, with deportations, and funding threats. Schumer probably wanted Kent State.

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Democrats absolutely do care what their base wants, unlike the Republicans, but yes this sort of talk and action are why the DNC lost. Being the lesser evil very unfortunately wasn’t enough.

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I think I’m their base. I don’t want genocide. I do want everyone to be happy and healthy and educated with healthcare and clean air. People should be able to afford things without working themselves to death.

I do not feel represented.

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Then maybe you should read the vote counts on most of the important legislation passed in the last 3 decades? Because I assure you that you absolutely are represented.

The worst score the DNC would have with your list would be handling Israel and Gaza but our guy was swearing at Netanyahu over the phone, building a pier to distribute aid, and withholding weapons shipments. The new guy, who replaced our guy, has bragged about fulfilling the delayed shipments, is backing a full and complete ethnic cleansing of Gaza.

So, I mean, hands down no competition. Remove Republicans at all costs. ALL COSTS.

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It doesn’t help that Schumer’s term goes on until 2029 so the only way to primary him is to issue a recall. It’s going to be a rough decade.

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America’s so stupid this man is considered left.

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Radical left 🤣

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Someone asked me how much I liked Comrade Chuck. I could only blink

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He is not considered left by actual leftist Americans. We know he’s a corporate shill.

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We all consider him a centrist democrat, as many of the oldest are. Some call them “the old guard.”

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His job is to keep the left pro-genocide?

Lord, I hate establishment Dems.

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I don’t think you’ve been paying much attention then. Both parties have the same masters.

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I’m not sure I follow. Did you mean to reply to a different comment?

Just in case: “I hate establishment Dems.” =/= “I like Republicans.” I have enough disdain in my heart for both. The post is about an establishment Dem, so that’s what my comment was about too. I was directly replying to Chuck’s remarks that “(his) job is to keep the left pro-Israel.”

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the same megadonors, dems just have more obvious right supporters, the DInos. im betting at least the DNC was afraid that trumps gop was getting massively more donations than The DNC, so they probably made deals and a “attempt to win the eleciton”

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I strongly believe, as I always have, that there is a solution to these problems that doesn’t involve choosing between Palestinian Lives or Israeli Lives.

Israel is an aggressor, even if they were initially attacked first, and it seeks to benefit from war and violence, and this needs to be stopped, but that statement in itself is not anti-israel nor is any pro-israeli stance necessarily pro-genocide. The most pro-Israeli action I can think of is forcefully removing Netanyahu from power thereby averting a coup as he should not be eligible to rule given his many crimes.

Also, I hope we primary the fuck out of Chuck Schumer in 2029 (or even recall his ass) and that Democrats win lots of seats in the next election.

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The problem is that when politicians like Chuck Schumer say “pro-Israel” what they mean is “I am in favor of the conflict continuing,” if you read in-between the lines. He is not taking the same humanistic approach you are. I really can’t emphasize enough how much Netanyahu and Israeli Jews writ large want the conflict to not only continue but to escalate (in case it needs to be said, no not all Jews, just specifically the ones benefiting from and perpetuating Israel’s ethno-nationalism, and who also happen to own most of the legal and political power in Israel). That is to say, he enjoys massive support in his own country. Virtually the only major power that is backing them on this is the US. Everywhere else, Netanyahu is internationally recognized as a WANTED war criminal.

Moreover, I take issue with the notion that Israel is simply retaliating against some unprovoked terror attack. October 7th didn’t just, like, happen in a vacuum. I could make comparisons to 9/11 and post-9/11 America–I wouldn’t be the first to compare these things and it isn’t a perfect comparison by any means–but a history lesson is perhaps outside the scope of a comment like this.

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Anyone got a non-paywalled source for this? Chucky’s not usually this mask-off

Thanks for the ladder @Gem

President Trump accused him of being “a Palestinian” who was “not Jewish anymore.” A few days later, Schumer decided to postpone his book tour after joining Republicans to support a stopgap spending bill to avoid a government shutdown

And they say women are too emotional to be in office 🙄

A Jew stands up for his people regardless of the cost, and regardless of the politics of it. On this, Schumer has acquitted himself bravely.

So move to Israel if you want to stand up for them. They’ll give you land.

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Must be tricky getting lefties to support a fascist religious ethno-state responsible for killing 50000 children in the past year alone.

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Can start by polluting the narrative by trying to draw similarities between Israel’s plight… and Ukraines.

Its a very straight line. The US supports Israel. The US supports Ukraine. Ergo, Israel = Ukraine. Also, Palestinian = Russian.

Unless the President changes, at which point Israel = Russia and Palestine = Ukraine. Oh, no wait. Pete Hegseth is getting dragged on TV and my donors are mad at me for suggesting we pull money out of the arms export industry. Maybe Ukraine is good aktuly? Maybe we just stop talking about Ukraine entirely? Is there any way we can pivot to blaming China and kicking off a shooting war in the Pacific?

Poor Zelensky doesn’t understand that Israel doesn’t give a mortal fuck about them and their struggle.

Zelenskyy doesn’t get that Slav ranks below cockroach and above Arab in the western white nationalist lexicon. He’s expendable on a good day.

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