Joe Biden has reportedly become more open in recent days to hearing arguments that he should step aside as the Democratic presidential candidate after the party’s two main congressional leaders told him they doubted his ability to beat Donald Trump.

While continuing to insist he will be the party’s nominee in November, the president has reportedly started asking questions about negative polling data and whether Vice-President Kamala Harris, considered the favourite to replace him if were to withdraw, fares better.

The indications of a possible rethink come after Biden tested positive on Wednesday for Covid-19, forcing him to isolate for several days while curtailing a campaigning visit to Nevada that had been part of a drive to show his candidacy was very much alive.

It also coincides with fresh polling data showing that he now trails Trump by two points in Virginia, a state he won by 10 points in 2020.

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I’ll vote for Biden over Trump or not voting any day. But I’d be more excited to vote for a Harris/Shapiro or a Whitmer/Shapiro ticket.

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Okay, so I don’t follow politics all too closely, and I don’t live in or near Pennsylvania, and the person that came to mind when I read “Shapiro” was “Ben” since I’d never heard of “Josh”.

This confused me. Now I know more.

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Whitmer/Harris FTW

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Honestly, given the amount of news that this is getting, I’m starting to think that a decision has already been made, and that the Dems are either:

  • Waiting for it to blow over, and for Biden to stay and fight
  • A transition candidate has been picked, and it’ll be either Harris or another candidate to announce themselves with an immediate campaign.

The former seems like a terrible idea. Before the debate Biden was “fine” as a candidate, and debates don’t really affect much in terms of voting intention - but dragging this out and staying on just looks bad with Trump having the (I can’t believe I’m writing this) near-assassination high after his convicted felon low.

Depending on the candidate, the latter could be a fantastic move. I’m not convinced that Kamala Harris could beat Trump, but a double-ticket of someone like AOC with either Biden or Harris as VP could be a winner. Play things coy, have Biden come out right at the end, say he’s staying on…as a VP to your new candidate, and start flooding the news and socials with the new candidate. Trump will lose his shit because the news is no longer on him.

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I’m still hoping for the scenario were Biden wins and AOC, pelosi or some other woman becomes speaker of the house and Biden steps down early on to see the GOP collectively loose their shit as they have both a woman for president and VP.

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Jesus christ, please not fucking Pelosi.

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yeah, she’s not even old enough to be president!

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I’m with ya, however a new VP is just appointed. It doesn’t necessarily have to be the speaker of the house.

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That makes sense otherwise each person would move up. In that case Harris as the President then Whitmer at the VP appointee. It would still put the GOP knickers in a bunch. Then keep AOC in the house and let her keep the dogs at bay there.

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This is just the media gassing themselves up.

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The only way for the Dems to win is either to put a woman up for election and have her push hard for abortion rights and talk about nothing else so her conservative politics don’t push away the majority of non-Republicans, like Hillary did, or put up someone left of center for once and give the people who are tired of voting for the lesser evil a chance to be excited for a candidate. But that’s unlikely.

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Porque no los dos with AOC. But the quadfecta of being a woman, a person of color, a leftist, and someone born after the invention of color TV means the Dems would have to be really desperate to nominate her. Like the United States itself would have to be at risk of falling completely into the hands of fascism for them to be that desperate.

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You get one shot at running for president really. AOC shouldn’t waste it on this election yet. She wouldn’t win, and then that would prevent her from winning a nomination in future elections.

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TIL color television is only 80 years old, and standardized color broadcasts only 71…

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Falling completely into the hands of fascism, you say?

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She isn’t old enough to run. She’s only 34.

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She’ll be 35 by inauguration time, which is what matters according to the Constitution.

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She will be 35 in October, so she would be able to run.

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Soon ™

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We are at that point already and they still won’t consider it.

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