Meanwhile, 44 percent backed the American tradition of competing branches of government as a model, if sometimes “frustrating,” system.

Why would people want to live under an authoritarian’s thumb? It’s rooted, experts say, in a psychological need for security—real or perceived—and a desire for conformity, a goal that becomes even more acute as the country undergoes dramatic demographic and social changes. People also like to obey a strong leader who will protect the group—especially if it is the “right” group whose interests will be protected. Recall the Trump supporter who, during the 2019 government shutdown, complained, “He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting.”

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The people who dont want to be told how they live desperately want someone to tell them how to live.

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They want their opinion mirrored back at them by someone in power so they don’t have to take responsibility for their own opinions.

A close friend of mine is a woman of color and her bosses want the same things from her. They wants to hear their opinion come out of someone with her skin tone so they feel justified and not responsible at the same time. I imagine these are similar phenomenon.

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Nailed it, this 💯

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You just perfectly described the Candace Owens and Dave Rubin phenomenon.

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They don’t want to be told how to live while simultaneously having someone force others to live like them.

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To have others be told how to live, which is how they prefer to live already.

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Exactly.

They support him because they believe he is like them, so they won’t need to change anything. It’s everyone else that will be forced to be like them that they want…

I hope I’m not spreading misinformation, but I believe one of the victims of the assassination attempt had a flag on his Facebook page that was a play off of “don’t tread on me” and in it’s place was a tank with “tread on all of them.”

I fucking hate these people so much

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Sounds like they’re just looking for a daddy.

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The people who don’t want to be told how to live want other people to be told how to live thinking they’ll be left alone.

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Regardless of if it’s true, you shouldn’t use that word.

However its all perspective, an intellectual disability is described as 30 points below average, because a 30 point difference is noticable.

So even just two people at the end of the first standard deviation would experience that.

Being three standard deviations above average isn’t that rare, about 1 in 1200, about the same rate as people who transition oddly enough, so it’s a good comparison.

If you’re “lucky” enough to be over 145, about 84% of everyone else is at least 30 points below you.

It’s like real life Idiocracy or old school Cassandra. Shit seems so simple but no one listens.

Even then bro, dont resort to that word.

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What are your thoughts on the words moron, stupid, or idiot?

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They used to be bad, now they’re not.

Maybe it will change for this one too, but it’s not our decision currently

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I agree it is relatively arbitrary, I removed the comment because of the effect it has on the tone of the community- not because of the history of the word.

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I wonder what are his thoughts on fun places like reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets where everybody calls each other retard because their investment decisions perfectly fit that term.

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Being three standard deviations above average isn’t that rare, about 1 in 1200, about the same rate as people who transition oddly enough, so it’s a good comparison.

I… Don’t think trans folks are quite that common, let alone those that undergo transition treatment.

https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/trans-adults-united-states/

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That says 0.51% of adults, and under 18 rates are higher.

1/1200 is 0.83%

0.32% is close enough for an “about” on social media, if we add in under 18 it would get closer, but I’m not doing that much math.

Neither is exactly 1/1200 tho

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What? 1 in 1200 is very rare

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Dude, context matters. Things can be insulting or not depending of where and when phrase was used. Every smart person understands the intent behind that sentence, and that it was a hyperbole.

Don’t assume other people can’t read context and the intent, because if you do, you’re actually insulting their intelligence

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Every smart person understands the intent behind that sentence, and that it was a hyperbole.

You really typed that out and didn’t see the issue?

People with intellectual disabilities can still use social media, they can still pick Lemmy, and they can still see your comment.

And it’s not up to you or me if it’s offensive in any context.

Do you use other slurs like this? Go to a pride parade and start dropping F bombs? BLM protests your just letting the n word fly?

It’s not up to them if it’s offensive, its you’re call if the context makes it ok?

Just stop man. You’re not helping yourself.

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It’s amazing to me that people have issues with medical words, which are turned into epithets, which are then removed from the medical lexicon because they have become epithets, and would use that to derail a discussion on the fact that a full third of Americans don’t want to live in a democracy.

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What derailed the conversation was use of slurs…

But if you really want to pull out the old “what’s really a problem is people complaining about bigotry” cars from the Republican deck, go for it.

Unfortunately it wouldn’t be surprising these days, moderates keep acting more and more like trump supporters. Someone asks for basic decency and they get accused of bad faith.

Did you not see how that worked out for Republicans?

Be better

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Also fun fact:

Every tabletop scenario he ran (think like a UN version of Risk) in which the Authoritarians had control, they wiped out everyone with nuclear war including themselves.

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I don’t think we’ll go out that way, but I do 100% believe our greed will be our “great filter” that we do not pass. :(

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with dwindling resources on a warming planet, I think the likelyhood of a significant nuclear exchange is dramatically increased - perhaps even inevitable.

agree with the great filter. it makes me think that humans, having acted as a great filter for our hominid family tree, are about to reap what we have been sowing for the last 200k+ years.

or this could be a one of many catalysts for speciation. I sometimes feel that some people are already a different species. not better, not worse (not willing to engage in subjective morality) - just different, with different goals, problems and problem solving tools.

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I’m just going off what his report said.

And he nailed them to a fucking T

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If I remember correctly, even after giving the authoritarians a do-over, they still fucked it up.

Meanwhile, the people in the other group who scored low on authoritarianism like solved the climate crisis and world hunger.

Some people are legitimately bad at politics and stuff, and it’s not the people the authoritarians are mad about.

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Yep lol. Every chance they got they blew themselves and everyone else up. It was quite the crazy read on a flight from Boston to Chicago lol.

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A nuclear civil war… can’t say I’m surprised.

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I’m glad at least they aren’t hiding it anymore

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32% of americans are chickenshit responsibility abrogators that want everything they do to be dictated to them. Religion has been a major primer for that mindset

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At some level, people just want a particular policy. It’s silly to pretend a democracy where I never get what I want is going to be more attractive than a dictatorship where I get to unleash my libidinal id.

And you can’t just blame this on religion. Religiosity has plummeted over the last 40 years, but we seem to be as accommodating towards fascism as ever.

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The fall of the spiritual dictator in the masses is what scares them

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Yes, one of the reasons for this movement being started decades ago, and coming to a head now, is the decline in what people considered to be the correct values, aka their values. Religion is in decline, conservative political positions are getting less popular, mainstream culture is slowly moving away from catering, pretty much, exclusively to white, straight, christians. They are being backed into a the proverbial corner. The only way they see a future for their dominance is by force.

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32% of people know their preferred way of doing things are unpopular and will not get their way unless a regime that agrees with them is in power, because democracy would favor the majority.

Religion can of course drive an entitlement that’s very dangerous (people asserting a higher power justifies their particular view), but more mundane motivations can easily drive people to demand they are right over the majority).

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TIL 32% of Americans are idiots.

Wait … I knew this already. Never mind.

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You can pretty much ask almost any insane thing and it somehow always comes out to at least 30% of Americans.

I sometimes wonder if it’d always the same 30% and there just 30% idiots, or if that 30% spans multiple topics and groups of idiots and its actually higher like 60%

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30% of Americans think that feet and legs should be removed and made illegal

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Thats why they named it head and shoulders, the anti bottom torso movement scared them off.

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I wonder if it’s something like 25% of survey respondents are just picking the most outrageous thing and 5% actually believe that way. I remember a while ago on a survey about being ok with political violence, they tried to control for that kind of thing and it dropped the numbers a lot.

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It’s more than that, but some of them accidentally believe that democracy is good.

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