cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17672200
Yeah and you push Clinton and look how 2016 ended up. And now we’re not just in hell, but living on the precipice of straight up fascism. Thanks guys.
With Democrats like that who needs Republicans?
If you think any one of them ain’t on the same team, you are a sucker. They may believe they are and think they’re telling the truth. Doesn’t matter. They’re capitalist. Every thing they do is theft from you and everyone else. Doesn’t matter. If you don’t think otherwise enough to at least figure out the truth, then you are as delirious as every one of them. It don’t matter. Result is always collective suicide irrespective of who does whatever they think they are doing or who wins that whack-a-troll.
ah jacobin; the gateway pundit of the online left.
Is RealClearPolitics unreliable too?
He’s a Democrat, of course he’s conservative. It doesn’t make his statement about helping Biden any less true.
Is Adam Smith a conservative news pundit too?
We didn’t need them to admit it, and Bernie endorsed Biden just the other day. It wouldn’t surprise me if Biden were being pushed out the exact same way for being “too progressive.” The fact that the left wing of the DNC has been supporting him suggests this is the case.
That’s odd because the only reason there’s leverage to remove Biden is because the party thought he wasn’t progressive enough in terms of Gaza.
Removing him because of his terrible debate is only politically feasible for Democrats because he has been losing in head-to-head polls since almost exactly October 7th.
I think AOC and Sanders are probably thinking of something else. My hunch, is they assume Republicans will challenge the existence of any Democrat on the ballot not named Joe Biden for some sort of rules violation, the decision will go to the Supreme Court, and the court will decide on returning 45 to the White House.
I think they just know that they’re not the voices that could ever convince Joe Biden’s ego to stand down, and if he holds on they’d be the ones to suffer most for rebellion.
Good going. Let’s argue and divide the Democrats when it needs unity the most.
We held our noses and voted for him despite everything we knew in 2020. What did that get us? A genocide halfway across the world.
This time around I decided to believe Biden when he says he is a Zionist. He demonstrated it over 30,000 times so far.
I still remember on October 6th when Biden said “fuck all those Palestinians, murder them all.”
It wasn’t because of the actions of a terrorist group that sparked a disproportionate response at all.
Collective Punishment is a war crime and against international law. So was the blockade and occupation of Gaza and the West Bank. Palestinians aren’t resisting out of nothing and their resistance is legal per international law.
If this is the position most liberals hold, I see no reason why Arab and Muslim Americans should vote for a party that demonizes them anyways.
Now we don’t know if Biden ever said that about Palestinians on October 6th but he did say it about Lebanese in 1982. So I know that he at least believes it and his actions show it.
Begin said he was shocked at how passionately Biden supported Israel’s invasion when Biden “said he would go even further than Israel, adding that he’d forcefully fend off anyone who sought to invade his country, even if that meant killing women or children.” Begin said, “I disassociated myself from these remarks,” adding: “I said to him: No, sir; attention must be paid. According to our values, it is forbidden to hurt women and children, even in war. Sometimes there are casualties among the civilian population as well. But it is forbidden to aspire to this. This is a yardstick of human civilization, not to hurt civilians.” The comments were striking from Begin, who had been notorious as a leader of the Irgun, a militant group that carried out some of the worst acts of ethnic cleansing accompanying the creation of the state of Israel, including the 1948 Deir Yassin massacre.
https://theintercept.com/2021/04/27/biden-israeli-invasion-lebanon/
“Oh man this is very inconvenient to the echo chamber. Please move on everyone nothing to see here”
jacobin doesn’t want unity; jacobin wants to elect far right republicans.
Reluctantly, I gave the piece a fair shake.
It’s garbage. We know that the DNC pushed other more moderate candidates out so that a more moderate candidate, one the average democratic voter and independent thinks they want, could win instead of them all splitting the vote. This was obvious, not some conspiracy theory.
The author of the piece is trying to claim that because one person said they chose a candidate that could beat sanders, that was the ultimate goal. But they wanted to beat sanders because they felt he couldn’t beat trump. They quote one person effectively saying this, but then dishonestly spin it.
The second quote is one person saying that he thinks sanders policies are bad, as if this proves anything.
It’s amazing anyone reads this site without realizing how terrible it is.
also because most of the terminally online far left agree with the far right. which is why most of them are transphobic and anti-immigrant af.
