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Especially when the first things they do are start taking apart consumer and environmental protections, disband social safety nets, increase taxes (tariffs) on imported goods, attack FEMA, and stop farm subsidies, all of which hurt the working class.

Not only do people still believe the ridiculous lie, they believe it despite the mountain of evidence they don’t give a fuck about you.

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You hate the Republican party so much you support government waste over accountability for our tax dollars. That’s completely insane.

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You hate people who want to be genuinely free to the point that you support stripping freedoms from others.

I hate freedom-haters like you. If you don’t like it, get out.

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I don’t hate anyone. You are free to be as angry as you like, no one cares.

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Lmao you think what’s happening now is going to increase accountability?

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Explain how it hasn’t.

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Are consumer protections government waste?

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They “are” for those people who are too stupid to understand that individual consumers don’t have the time, expertise, access to inside information on company processes and their own labs so that they don’t need to rely on regulators to make sure they’re not buying and consuming dangerous shit, and can do it all by themselves as individuals.

The “too stupid to understand regulators are there to do what individuals don’t have the time, expertise and power to do as individuals” neatly brings us around exactly to the point the OP was making.

(Mind you, sadly it’s not just Trumpettes who fall into the “too stupid to understand the need of regulators” category)

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Any system large enough is going to have waste and fraud. That doesn’t mean the system shouldn’t exist, and it certainly doesn’t mean that the system shouldn’t be handed over to the largest wasters and fraudsters on the planet.

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Are you talking about the ones that are actually reporting the waste and fraud, lmao.

I do agree that there is a huge opportunity for waste and fraud in a large system, that’s why most have third party auditing.

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Our system has/had accountability baked into it. Rather than rely on our separation of powers and independent inspectors general, you chuckle fucks, in your infinite lack of wisdom, decided to hand our government over to a Nazi billionaire with glaring conflicts of interest.

Accountability? Puuuuuuhlease.

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Nazi billionaire…you really drank the Kool aid didn’t you.

Would you rather we continue to tax and spend? You sound extremely liberal, so I’ll assume yes.

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15 points

OBG stands for Ol’ Boy Gobbler

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Obviously Been Grifted.

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I don’t hate the republican party. But the current party isn’t the republican party. I disagreed with the republican party, which is different. The current iteration has people in charge who have literally no understanding or don’t actually care how the government works and what is needed. They aren’t reducing “waste”, they are just using that as an excuse to try and get rid of anything they don’t like or don’t agree with. The sooner you start to understand that the better. Because you don’t have enough understanding of what’s actually going on to have a legitimate discussion about it. It’s like someone who doesn’t understand algebra trying to have a discussion about calculus.

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How old are you? 'Cause the Republican party has been outright fascists for decades now. You’d have to go really far back to find an iteration of the party which was in any way reasonable.

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The reason you are being down voted is because the current administration is not doing that. They SAY that’s what they are doing, but pay attention to their actual actions and who is benefitting. Look at the outcomes. It is the opposite of what you want.

Here is the crazy thing, I am very left wing, but I agree with you on the point of bringing down wasteful spending and that we should have accountability for government spending and such. But Trump and Elon are not at all doing those things. They are in this for their own selfish desires and agendas and they have convinced a lot of people otherwise. They are cutting the parts of government that oppose them or that they don’t like and none of that is going to have any significant impact on the budget. Go look up how much we spend on our defense budget or other big costs. Maybe we should stop sending bombs all over the world? Maybe we don’t need to spend more than half the other countries on earth combined? Maybe we shouldn’t have a system that allows a dozen people to have more wealth stolen and hoarded from the rest of the country? Maybe we need some fair wages for our hard work so that you and I can be a hard working American that gets fairly paid for our labors? The American Dream doesn’t work if you can work your whole life and still be in debt, while someone else can rake in billions without working at all, but simply because they own you and the company you work for.

I would wager that you and I want the same things. To be able to work and provide for ourselves and our family, to have enough to eat and have a home and hobbies and enjoy life. We want to feel like we contribute to our community. We want to create things and fix things and make things around us better for ourselves and others. We want to love and be loved. We want a government that REPRESENTS the people and invests in things that benefit us and help us and doesn’t waste it or tax us unfairly for it.

So why do you think the Republican party is helping you when they have a track record of voting for tax cuts to the billionaires and mega corporations and simultaneously raising your individual taxes? Why are they telling you to fear and hate immigrants when they are the backbone and the reason our country even started? Why are they telling you to fear and hate trans people that just want to exist and be who they are? Why are they NOT saying a word about the trillions of wasted money on military? The trillions stolen from us hard working Americans that goes into the pockets of the already rich like Elon? Could it be that they are lying to us?

Go look at the actions they make and look past the words they speak and tell me what you find.

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Thanks for taking the time for such a thoughtful response. I do believe there is much more common ground between us all and it would be great if we focused on and built off of that.

As far as down votes…that’s what happens when you offer a conservative opinion on a liberal site. Maybe one day I’ll learn not to reply.

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3 points

Way to sound stupid in under two sentences

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These guys will let you get mangled in an industrial accident if it would save them a quick buck.

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Elon wanted safety colors removed from some warehouse/factory, because he didn’t like how they looked. People got in accidents because of that.

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So not even to save money. They’ll risk your life just for aesthetics.

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The Johnstown Flood

Rich people tampered with a dam so they could have a nicer ride.

Development included lowering the dam to make its top wide enough to hold a road for a carriageway and putting a fish screen in the spillway. Workers lowered the dam, which had been 72 feet (22 m) high, by 3 feet (0.91 m).[10] These alterations are thought to have increased the vulnerability of the dam. Moreover, a system of relief pipes and valves, a feature of the original dam which had previously been sold off for scrap, was not replaced. The club had no way of lowering the water level in the lake in case of an emergency.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnstown_Flood

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Hey! I like dogs

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well people follow organized religions blindly so…yes

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Bro we’re nowhere close to bottoming out, so I hope you’re ready. You’ll feel it when we pass the point of no return.

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Methinks that has passed, the bottom is a long way off yet, however point of no return is long gone

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The point of no return was when a bunch of wealthy slavers decided to create a country by and for themselves. Everything else is just projection and propaganda.

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