I had a Tankie yesterday tell me that earning capital is a feature of communism.
It honestly made my week.
Why wonāt liberals just let me eat my theater beans?!
I was referencing a fake quote that did the rounds awhile back:
āāI spilled baked beans all over myself watching Cars 2 in theaters & a black teenager shouted āthis n***a eating beansā & everyone laughed. Thatās when I decided to become a Republican.ā Donald Trump. People Magazine, 1998ā
Hey.
Finland here. Socialism is pretty fucking great.
Howās it going in America, the bastion of capitalism, where there is no parental leave, limited sick days, at-will firing, cities are overcrowded with human excrement from homeless people who still have actual jobs, for profit prisons forcing people to slave away for years because of mandatory minimum sentencing, and all that other good shit?
Communism might not work until we get to a Star Trek style utopia, but socialism definitely does. Capitalism doesnāt have a monopoly on market economies.
Market socialism is just the same thing as capitalism, just with less poor quality products, good labour laws, no horribly massive income inequalities, etc.
But no you go on ahead and defend capitalism as an ideology, Iām sure youāve read the literature on the subject and know what youāre talking about.
Iām not saying youāre necessarily defending it even if I think youāre wrongly equating capitalism and market economy.
I just feel that for the most part, basically the āRed Scareā made people think that the only thing thatās an alternative to capitalism is full blown communism, which implies that all market economies are capitalist, which they arenāt.
Iām not blaming you ā Iām blaming some of the implications of the language youāve used. There is a difference.
Yeah, thereās a lot of good things about Finland when comparing internationally, but I can tell you, there are some rather bad things as well. While āfirst amendment auditorsā in the US are sometimes annoying as fuck, we honestly need a little bit of that type of spirit here. Weāve got authoritarian issues. Honestly.
https://harvardpolitics.com/nordic-racism/
Iād just like to live somewhere else for a while, maybe that might give me a newfound respect to licking some boots or something, as currently respecting the Finnish police- and justice system in general is a very nauseating idea indeed.
My point is that adopting socialism would make the poor richer and the megarich poorer, and if itās just socialism, a āmarket socialismā, not a ācommunismā, if you will, then nothing would really change for most of the people. Well, nothing would change to be more negative at least. The megawealthy would still be rich, but they wouldnāt be as disgustingly rich as now. Homelessness or hunger wouldnāt exist. But still a lot of people basically consider āsocialismā to be a curse-word?
While I donāt disagree with your main point, to my knowledge Finland is still capitalist, it just has a robust safety net, regulations, and workersā protections, like most of Europe, and unlike much of the US.
Yeah, a lot of people think that, and theyād be wrong.
Weāre a social democracy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy
Social democracy is a political, social, and economic philosophy within socialism that supports political and economic democracy and supports a gradualist, reformist and democratic approach towards achieving socialism.
Learn to separate your notion of ācapitalismā from āmarket economyā. Capitalism is to market economy what cancer is to cell growth. It is that, but it is a malignant form of it that will never ever function in long term, and itās very clear to anyone who objectively looks at it. Infinite growth on finite materials is literally impossible.
Itās unbelievable to me that someone outside of China would honestly defend Xi JinPingās policy. I mean, look for the first Chinese expat in your country. He/she probably has some dark story about illegal secret cops trying to bring him/her back home because of a Winnie the poo post on Twitter.
Wow, that zero upvote anonymous reddit comment sure is relevant to talk about.
How many examples do you want? Or will no amount of evidence change your mind that this is something that happens, because you donāt actually care, you just want to defend fascists?
Oh, I donāt deny that it happens. I just donāt base my beliefs around reacting to random internet weirdos, like the person in the comment seems to be doing, and as you seem to be doing with them, ironically enough.
What I do base my beliefs on is evidence. Itās very funny to call this meme āevidence,ā itās literally just one random person on some random place getting mad and saying shit. I could literally go write a comment on reddit, like, āAs a Biden voter, I love drowning puppies,ā downvote it, screenshot, and Iād have exactly as much āevidenceā of what Biden voters believe as what youāve presented.
Also, obviously the claim that I ādefend fascistsā is completely baseless and can be disregarded, because again, evidence.
I just donāt base my beliefs around reacting to random internet weirdos, like the person in the comment seems to be doing, and as you seem to be doing with them, ironically enough.
Oh, yes, I turned against genocide and ethnic cleansing apologia because of internet weirdos, not because I think those things are bad.
Itās very funny to call this meme āevidence,ā
I didnāt call the meme evidence, I asked how much evidence you wanted. The meme is a joke about a well-known phenomenon. Iām sorry you misunderstood that.
Also, obviously the claim that I ādefend fascistsā is completely baseless and can be disregarded, because again, evidence.
Oh? Would you like me to dig up evidence there? Because I remember you quite distinctly engaging in apologia for tankies and doing Ukrainian genocide denial.
In fact, werenāt you involved in denying the Uyghur genocide too?
