People who publish scientific articles should be forced to declare their religious views at the top of the article so that if anything is listed other than “none” then it can just be automatically discarded unless it’s replicated by a non-religious scientist. Religion just ruins everything, like running a computer with Windows.
I don’t consider myself as religious, but this is just such a bad take.
I too dislike religion, but judging people based on their beliefs and discrediting their views because of it is exactly the problem.
I disagree. For hundreds of years, illogical religious beliefs have biased science. People should have a right to know if scientists have religious beliefs so they can be weary of their agendas affecting the results. Many religious beliefs are obviously illogical and make no sense and if a scientist believes them, it does illuminate the likelihood of the accuracy of their results.
For many years “scientists” said homosexuality was caused by “mental illness” and then suddenly they decided it’s not. There were entire scientific programs devoted to racist beliefs that were psuedoscientific and often impacted by religious views justifying racism. Of course religion biases science and is a problem in having unbiased research!
I don’t think we should outlaw religious people from practicing science, but their views should at least be known so people can scrutinize their work more closely.
Question… do you realize how fascist this sounds?
You might mean well, but all you’re doing is changing who’s being discriminated against.
Not cool.
What field would be the cut off? Is religion going to influence how a metallurgist analyzes microstructure? How about how a chemist developing new polymers? Who gets to decide? If a scientist allows their religion, or any external influence, to influence their work they are a bad scientist. Which is why we have peer review and reproducible results. There is no need to label anyone. If their work is shit there is mechanisms to correct it, which we are seeing in the article.
People’s relationship with religion is not up to you, just how the opinions of the religious shouldn’t get to dictate the lives LGBT+. They might be in it for community and don’t belive the “fantasy”. If an individual is spouting hate that is one thing, but judging individuals by their religion is the same persecution the religious zelots dish out.
Edit: some wording
I’m as atheist as atheist gets, and I completely disagree with this, and it honestly smacks of edgy teen r/atheism. Just because you’re religious doesn’t mean you’d engage in that kind of dishonesty. Some of the greatest scientific discoveries in human history were made by religious people.
Also:
“Religion just ruins everything, like running a computer with Windows.” “@secretlyaddictedtolinux”
Username absolutely does NOT check out, lol
It’s not about religion, haters will be haters, religion is just a tool haters use to prop up their views
You have an ideological viewpoint that says that all people with a certain identity are wrong. And you present yourself as moral.
You sound like a fundamentalist, to me.
I don’t read it as saying they’re wrong. I read it as saying it’s unreliable. If someone has a cacaine addiction, I’m not going to trust them to hold on to some crack and not use it. If they can prove themselves reliable then they may be trusted.
I don’t think I agree with this person’s opinion, but it’s not what you said it was.
I think a better way to phrase that might be: I’m not going to trust a cocaine addict who tells me that cocaine is a safe and healthy alternative to my morning cup of coffee. I would like to see those findings peer reviewed and replicated by people that don’t have a vested interest in making access to cocaine easier.
I interpreted it as “You hold beliefs that directly contradict the work you’re performing, therefore, you have a bias that needs to be shown wasn’t a factor in your research by having your research successfully replicated by those who do not share your bias.”
A Crusade was never launched on behalf of science, people were never burned at the stake because of science, babies are not still being mutilated at birth against their will (circumcision or genital mutilation of young girls) because of science, and AIDs was not spread unchecked across the world due to government’s lack of science.
It’s religion, it ruins literally everything, especially science.
I don’t think most people would consider their religion a conflict of interest. I would agree that it is for scientific research, and probably a whole lot of other things…
My brother is an astrophysicist, and a Catholic. It’s fascinating to me, honestly.
The only people with no religion are solipsists. Believing in consensus reality is a religious view. What’s it like being a solipsist?
If you have a scientific argument for realism, I’d love to hear it, and so would every scientist ever, because it’s never been proven.
I mean that’s cool and all but that’s not really a debunking of biblical creation or sexual order if you take it at what it says and not what traditional religion tells you it says. There wasn’t supposed to be death, so animals shouldn’t have eaten each other. It also describes something like an asexual heaven. So even if homosexuality isn’t in the eternal perfection, everything now is imperfect so it’s just like everything else.
Where does the Bible describe an asexual heaven? Do you mean because Revelation says the only people who get to go to heaven are a small number of men?
The issue with finding homosexual behaviour in animals is that it’s never exclusive. Homosexual animals tend to be bisexual at best, and can often be chalked up to erroneous mating.
A lot of these studies are used to validate human homosexuality and harm the “it’s unnatural!” argument touted by conservatives. However using a Call to Nature is fallacious, and could be used to validate all number of animal behaviour.
Never is a strong word when that’s just not true
An animal model of spontaneous exclusive homosexuality has however been described in sheep. About 8% of the males in a population studied in the western United States were shown to mate exclusively with other males, even when the choice was given between a male or female partner (Perkins and Roselli, 2007; Roselli et al., 2011b).
Huh, wasn’t aware of that. Well, after a bit more research, excluding that one species in that one study, there are no exclusively homosexual animals.
“iT’s NoT nAtUrAL”
The very idea of sexuality being divisible into distinct types is a uniquely human construct.
Animals don’t think “I’m gonna go find another dude to have gay sex with,” they just get the urge and act on it with whoever looks good nearby.
Animals don’t think “I’m gonna go find another dude to have gay sex with,” they just get the urge and act on it with whoever looks good nearby.
Several animal species are famously monogamous, penguns for example.
That doesn’t explain why the same couples keep coming back to each other season after season.
