All that hand wringing over what kind of protest should be ok, you guys are exhausting. The kind of protest doesn’t make a difference at all. A lot of people will say it’s unacceptable no matter what. I’ll even admit sometimes a protest misses the mark, but I’m still glad they did it.
The kids are alright
My only opinion is that if the protest dosen’t hurt the owner class, then it’s not going to do anything anyway.
The protest isn’t intended to hurt the owner class. The protest is intended to draw attention to the issue. We’re talking about it therefore it’s an effective form of protest.
Without protests like this we go about our lives worrying about bills and ignore the literal apocalyptic catastrophe we’re nose-diving into.
How would your reaction have been if it wasn’t a cultural artifact creating by Europeans? Say they did it at Native American site or Aboriginal?
Don’t waste energy categorizing right or wrong ways to protest. All this is a distraction from the actual issues.
Agreed. The more we argue about the “how” of the protests, the more we’re distracted from what they’re actually protesting about. The most effective way of stopping people complaining about something isn’t to shut them up, but to fix the thing.
If someone’s poor and can’t afford to buy food, no amount of fines or jail time will prevent them from going back to stealing food the second they get out because - guess what - they’re still fucking poor. There’s a food bank near where I lived a while ago that notoriously had long lines. Slowly shuffling forward in a queue that screams “I’m poor” must be uncomfortable, but they’re still not stealing food while they have an alternative.
If you want people to stop vandalising shit in their outrage over exploitation and greed, fucking do something about the exploitation and greed. I’m sure those people could have thought of more pleasant ways to spend their time than creating their cornflour pigment, driving out there and getting arrested to make a point without leaving lasting damage.
It depends. I think that protest goes to far, if it really damages a building. Since this didn’t its all right.
Oh, poor building, poor monuments, poor rocks. If only we have any way to declare our oposition againt bilionaires literally destroying the whole ecosystems, destroying people lives and health. But for fucking sake, the poor, orange painted monument. those damn protesters crossed uncrossable line. I will not support them anymore!
Just Stop Oil said the paint was made of cornstarch and would dissolve in the rain.
Merriman said experts cleaned the orange powder from the stones because they were concerned about how it might react to water.
Might.
So because it could in the future maybe possibly damage it in some unspecified amount, they cleaned it off to be super sure there will be no damage.
So what fucking damage that really happened in the real world are you talking about?
I never talked about damage at Stonehege. I said, that damaging buildings how’s to far. They didn’t damage Stonehenge so its fine.
I think it’s a bit unfair they call it just “paint” when it was merely cornstarch that would wash off by itself.
There’s a huge difference in the degree of vandalism if it’s something that wash off by itself.
How and what will these crazy activists vandalize next? Shining a flashlight at the pyramids?!
TO RAISE AWARENESS, WE WILL BE TURNING OFF THE SUN TONIGHT AT (checks weather.gov) 8:02PM
It’s possible. And I think it’s likely. That the activists wanted this exact news cycle, where they falsely report that there is damage, gaining widespread coverage, and drawing attention their way, only for people to later learn that it was temporary and grow to respect the act.
Possibly. I’d imagine the vast majority of people don’t see the followup that there wasn’t damage, here, or the Mona Lisa, or the other events. The goal was outrage coverage for sure, and without causing damage so anyone who actually cares is fine with it. The media will just call it paint, and now that the potential for damage is clear they’ll stop talking about it.
Media uses language like this on purpose, most of their copy comes from single-sources and everyone on every news station is repeating the same rhetoric. They did this with the soup/painting incident as well, making it seem like the protestors ruined priceless artifacts instead of spilling harmless food products on a sheet of plexiglass.
But Flying Squid said it was irreparably damaged with crack seepage or whatever
Why are you lying about what I said?
Is this an example of positivity and productivity, the things you claimed I lacked?
It’s stone. Stone is full of cracks. It will get into those cracks and not wash off.
Interesting that you aren’t linking to where I said that. Perhaps it was because I said it in the other thread yesterday and not today after I read this article and found out I was wrong?
Is it that you’re being highly dishonest or is that just my negativity and lack of productivity that made me lack psychic powers?
I think you’re getting attacked because this post is an accusation, first and foremost. It definitely doesn’t feel like it is positive or productive.
Well that certainly gives people an excuse to tell ridiculous lies and take things I said out of context, doesn’t it?
I mean people are saying shit like I claimed to be an authority. When? Where? I didn’t do that.
And I did say I was wrong, but apparently that makes things even worse somehow.
People care more about the old rock placement than the actual air that we breathe today.
I wonder when these protests will turn into actual oil executive assassinations like in Ministry for the Future. We’re already rushing our way into a heat wave mass death event.
