52 points

As an American, was he bad? From my limited POV I feel like he was doing a decent job. I’ve seen comments lately indicating otherwise, and this article points to COVID, immigration, costs of living, and housing as reasons. I feel like most of those topics are not easy answers or directly related to a lot that can be done without drastic changes that will most likely not see the result I think people are looking for. Is this another case of spreading propaganda long enough that people who want answers believe the worst? I am genuinely curious about what is really taking place here and why.

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74 points

Canada has a history of ping-ponging between Conservative and Liberal governments every ~10 years.

I think Trudeau was fine as a Liberal PM. The one difference this iteration was that they formed government on a promise to change the electoral system, and they didn’t follow through. That could have ended the cycle. They burned everyone on the left with that move, and they lost the right because the right has gone Trumpist. So now they’re fucked, and we’re all fucked too. 🎉

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21 points

This sounds incredibly familiar

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25 points

He’s human.

He’s made good choices and poor ones but overall decent.

If he stays on it would hand the election to Poilievre as Canadians are sick of Trudeau but by resigning he’s giving someone else a chance.

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14 points

There’s your problem. You need to be electing Lizard People, like we do in the states.

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19 points

I’ve lived in Canada my whole life and lived comfortably up until Covid hit. After the pandemic everything went completely out of whack. My grocery bill tripled, the cost of everything exploded, and we’re experiencing a housing apocalypse (crisis isn’t the correct word anymore). Canada is basically 3 corporations in a trench coat and we’re heading in all the wrong directions.

What we need is a complete housing rugpull and to kneecap grocery chains or to increase wages to keep up with corporate greed but I don’t think thats going to happen. I’ve also seen a bunch of anti-worker policies become popular in general like leaning on contract/part time work so employers don’t have to pay out benefits and pensions. I could go on and on about that lol. Anyway a lot of people I know straight up left the country and get paid way more to do less work and live in much more affordable conditions, I myself might be doing that soon. Basically its a lot of short-sighted thinking resulting in massive brain drain where I work. I think most of our problems stem from unchecked corporate greed across every industry and we have to put up with it because most major companies operate in a duopoly. I’m not an expert but thats my take. its time for a MAJOR course-correction.

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13 points

US here. Same! Except I was hoping to flee to Canada…

😞

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5 points

100% true, and the fact that Shaw just got rolled into Rogers in the middle of anti-monopolist popular fervor is pretty depressing. The grocery industry is absolutely vile. Trudeau was acceptable and mostly made reasonable choices but my God I’d vote for anyone who forwarded stronger antitrust legislation and rulings.

Fucking Pierre ain’t gonna do it, the Cons always end up pushing legislation to get cushy megacorp board positions after their terms are up. Jagmeet seems more interested in fucking around than doing anything, and Trudeau was palatable but failed to tackle the monopolists at all.

Insanity to me how much the corpos own our country and how none of the parties seem to care.

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Thats what I find so frustrating! If I were the NDP right now I’d be going all out with ads and a plan of action! I want to hear something different for once instead of maintaining the status quo. They have a golden opportunity to leap frog over the libs and get some momentum. We’ve been complaining about the same issues over and over for years, you’d think at least someone would try to leverage that! I hope they don’t just roll over and let pierre waltz into the leadership position I can’t stand that guy at all!

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As I understand it (not Canadian), the big problem with him was that he straight up lied about a lot of his platform. Other than that it seems like he was kind of a Canadian Biden, decent overall but not what the country needed/needs.

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What it looks like from my stupid American point of view is the right-wing nutjobs have once again MAGA’d and Brexited their way to fooling 50.1% of registered voters in order to take over the government for corporations.

To install right-wing justices, steal from the coffers, turn a blind eye to polluters, and continue entrenching right wing propaganda at every turn.

NZ too. AUS seems on the brink. Fuck.

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21 points

That’s not what is going on here. Trudeau’s party is still in charge, they just have to pick a new leader, which they will do in March.

Parliamentary systems do not work the way you seem to think they do.

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Right so they’re still in the phase of paving the way for the far-right come October. Do the Liberals have anyone who is going to curb the trajectory away from the current path where Trudeau loses to the Conservatives?

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23 points

How is Peter Putinfever going to make stupid rhymes now?

But, seriously, I’m both relieved and surprised and maybe a little more anxious about what happens next.

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Trudeau wasn’t terrible, but he wasn’t going to win again. I only voted Liberal once (otherwise NDP who are center-left to left). I did so because Trudeau promised to get rid of first-past-the-post elections, and when that didn’t happen they lost me. My take on his time as leader is that he was decent during hard times. Not great, not terrible - life got harder as Canadians but we fared better than a lot of countries.

I’d much rather have him than the MAGA-lite conservative government which I fear my nation is headed for. My right-wing family members seem to share very similar faults to MAGA. I really don’t want Americans to get fucked by Trump and his reality-show appointees, but it looks like that’s what the US is headed for regardless of my wishes. I can only hope that our undecideds look at the mess the US Republicans are already and move away from voting in that mindset here.

BTW, Trump responding by continuing to call Canada as the 51st state and referring to our office of Prime Minister as the “governor of Canada” is shit behaviour and likely to burn through some goodwill. I know the folks reading this have no control over that clown, but I’m not looking forward to getting that attitude from the bloc of voters that parrot his verbal diarrhea.

“Many people in Canada LOVE being the 51st State,” Trump posted on his social media platform Truth Social. “If Canada merged with the U.S., there would be no Tariffs, taxes would go way down, and they would be TOTALLY SECURE from the threat of the Russian and Chinese Ships that are constantly surrounding them. Together, what a great Nation it would be!!!” Fuck right off you spray-painted felon sex offender.

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As an American I agree with everything you said after your BTW. It’s fucking wild that Trump is as awful as he is. It’s wise that he seems to be genuine about the Canada stuff. I’ve lived close to the border for a long time and America’s hat stuff is common… But like it’s a meme, it’s not supposed to be real life. What a fucking lunatic we voted for. I’m sorry, I’m setting up to get out as soon as anti-trans stuff gets rolling.

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I still love you guys. You’re our closest ally by far. It’s just sometimes I hear stuff like that and have to remind myself heh. Plus I know it was like 75m against vs 77m for Trump so it’s not like there isn’t opposition that continues to this day and foreseeable future.

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22 points

My theory is that he just doesn’t want to have to work with Trump anymore.

I don’t think Trudeau resigning will improve the Liberals’ chances in the next election, so this decision seems mostly personal.

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9 points

Haven’t been keeping up with our own politics?

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Have been. His own party has been calling for his resignation for months, if not longer. Doing so early enough might’ve given Canada more time to warm up to the new Liberal leader, but resigning now won’t help his party win.

The difference now is that he has to work with Trump, lol

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He was Prime Minister the last time Trump was around.

I guess it’s funny like “yeah I’d quit my job too if a shit bag like that started working at the desk beside me.” But in reality this has been brewing for months, like you said. And he has known (and already had to deal with Trump, again) since the election.

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