Summary
Donald Trump criticized President Biden’s decision to commute the sentences of 37 federal death row inmates, calling them “violent criminals” and wishing them to go to hell.
Trump also took the opportunity to sarcastically wish a “Merry Christmas” to Chinese troops in the Panama Canal and Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
Trump’s post also included references to his previous attempts to purchase Greenland and his suggestion that Wayne Gretzky run for Canadian Prime Minister.
He’s got some real skill at expressing inarticulate, impotent rage.
And if there were a Hell, Trump would be headed for the least pleasant precinct in it.
He’s already there, and we’re living in it with him. This is the bad place.
Trump is sad that he only gets execute one of the remaining three. The other two (Dylan Roof and Robert Bowers) are destined for bigger things in the Trump cabinet.
Would you be for a death penalty in cases where you can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the person that is accused is the perpetrator? And by shadow of a doubt, I am not referring to the very loose standards that most law enforcement relies on. I mean that the person was caught in the act.
In my case, no…for two reasons.
First, you can never be 100% sure you have the right person (especially given a lengthy history of police falsifying evidence, etc., and there can always be other factors involved). If you incorrectly put someone in jail you can attempt to make amends later, but how do you make amends to a person you murdered?
Second, given how human beings have evolved and how their brains function, life in solitary would be a far worse punishment if the goal is to punish or make them suffer for their crime. If your goal isn’t punishment or reform, but instead simple revenge, then I suppose this argument wouldn’t carry much weight for you.
The goal of punishment is not to break a person beyond repair. The goal is always to make them not commit that crime in the future. Punishing a person with a lifelong sentence just so that they experience the worst possible misery is just revenge.
That said, I am not advocating for death sentence.
I feel you are misunderstanding me. I am not asking about hypotheticals where the police lie. I am saying that in a hypothetical where YOU can prove beyond the shadow of a doubt.
It’s not about rehabilitation or punishment. It’s about logistics. If there is a dog that repeatedly attacks other people, children and dogs and rehabilitation has failed. The only recourse would be to terminate that dog as it is unsafe for society for the dog to be allowed out. Sure, you could build a secure containment facility to house your inmate dog but at what cost. At that point you are then taking resources that could be better spent to help people in need to contain a problem that will not be solved. I am actually in agreement with you that it’s a far crueler punishment to keep somebody alive in a non autonomous position that they would hate.
This seems like a classic “Either/or” logical fallacy.
Related to your dog example (from what I’ve read over the years), execution is not more cost effective than permanent confinement. In human society, this is mostly due to the legal costs of running a capital sentence through a lengthy appeals process.
Your original post did not mention cost effectiveness, it just asked about support for a death penalty. Regardless of cost, my stance is in the last paragraph of my original post: that permanent confinement is a more suitable punishment.
To be fair under Trudeau Canadian Hospitals started encouraging patients to kill themselves in the name of “Freeing a few beds”, to be even more fair Donald Trump isn’t even the president-elect, why are they talking about him and not the actual election winner, 47th President of the US, Elon Musk?
Maid was never about killing people to free space. Maid was intended for people who’s injury / illness has condemned them to suffering every moment for the rest of their natural life, it is an optional way out for people who have zero quality of life with the expectation that it will never get better.
I will never expect someone to use Maid, but I will never criticize so.eone who does.
As someone whose grandparents suffered a lot their last days on earth, I would (for me, not them).
Specially if I turn out to have Alzheimer’s like one of them. I want to die with as many of my memories as I can; and not let future me live in constant confusion and fear; not knowing where he is or who are all the people around him.
I understand why other people wouldn’t. But if I can have the choice; I would be seriously inclined to do it.
It may not have been intended for such, but we are seeing many cases of hospitals outright encouraging people to use maid, peopole are told they’re selfish for not choosing euthanasia, TV Commericials and Youtube Ads advocating for suicide and trying to make it seem glamorous and romantic, and most heartbreaking people who choose it simply because Canada has forced them into poverty with no way out.
As some one also in a country (America, Land of the Free for those who can afford it) that forced me into poverty with no way out, and who struggles with mental illness… it keeps me up at night sometimes.
I got people in medical fields doing everything they can for me, multiple people, because there is a nice municipal healthcare system in place where I live.
Would I still be alive if I were Canadian? Would the people who stopped me from killing myself be the ones to pull the proverbial trigger if I lived up North?
Why do we have to hang on every word this fucking arsehole says? He’s an utter cretin.
Four years.
Four goddamn years I had to wake up every day and pay attention to what asinine shit the President of the United States tweeted.
Because, unfortunately, that utter cretin had the nuclear button.
And now we have to endure another four years of the same.
Shit, for all the bad things you can say about Biden, you can at least say that whenever you heard a story start with “Today, the president said…” in the news, you weren’t immediately going “ah fuck here we go”. Four years I dealt with that kind of reflexive dread.
God, I wish I could just slip into a coma until 2029.
Personally I’d like to keep up with the Canada comments considering he’s threatening to annex our fucking country. Americans, fix your country
