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Man, I’m running out of fucks to give, I couldn’t care less at this point, my vote is anti-fascist whatever happens

Can we just get there already?

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42 points

The nearly endless campaign cycle seems tailor-made to wear us out. Wouldn’t it be nice to have it for two weeks max and then vote and be done with it? Everyone already knows how they’re gonna vote, don’t they?

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15 points

You needed that much time before TV to travel the US because it was so large. With the information overload age, that is definitely not a problem anymore as everyone can see every rally and debate remotely

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9 points

Yeah, French and British showed us we don’t need that much time.

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Their territory is also extremely small though so in a week you can cover a lot of places to hold assemblies. Candidates will still want to show up in most States at least once so a month and a half is pretty much the minimum…

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58 points

Why don’t you americans have some younger and more capable people to vote for?

Why are you voting for nearly dead person and a liiiiiiiittle bit less nearly dead person that is also one of the most stupid beings on this planet?

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Because America isn’t a democracy, it’s governed by 2 parties that service Capital above all else and presents preselected candidates that don’t represent the interests of the people.

You can vote third party, but this is actively discouraged by both the establishment and the broader public, even if the broader public wishes it could happen. This provides an illusion of choice thay ultimately makes no material difference.

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You can choose someone else. A lot of people just say this same rhetoric and make everyone else feel hopeless.

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4 points

You undertsand no third party ever wins under an FTTP system, because it is mathematically impossible

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3 points

Meaning I can vote third party, or meaning I can choose a different representative of the DNC? Again, the DNC preselects candidates and pushes them forward, Biden has an abysmal approval rating and is still being propped up. Third Party voting doesn’t seem like it will gain enough impact to take the presidency either.

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2 points

Strategically speaking, voting for a 3rd party in the US system means throwing away your vote. Which means even less people are going to vote 3rd party and the cycle continues.

The 2 options must be REALLY unpopular in order for a 3rd party to even start to have a chance.

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-13 points

oh look .ml pushing more both sides are the same bullshit. Shocking

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15 points

Both the DNC and GOP are Capitalist parties. The GOP is a far-right populist party, and the DNC is a right-wing Liberal party. They have numerous differences, but also numerous similarities. They can be compared both ways.

The United States is the global Hegemon, with a firmly entrenched Capitalist class that dominates the media and both major political parties via donations and funding. The parties care more about maintaining the good graces of their donors than they do materially benefiting the public.

No, both parties are not the same, but both draw their support from the same direction and as such ultimately move in directions that service those that support them.

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1 point

Yes judging people by their place of origin… this is a sound argument. You sound like a digital republican.

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12 points

That’s a wonderful question.

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3 points

Because the not-fascists are broadly satisfied to say “I told you so” from the moral high ground, and thus aren’t super invested in winning. Those that are are so idealistic that they cant actually politic effectively, think never voting for a moderate will convince the party to try harder to appeal to them instead of write them off as unreliable.

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3 points

Why don’t you americans have some younger and more capable people to vote for?

God I’ve said this almost as long as I’ve been able to vote

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-9 points

Because they let old people vote while not going out to vote themselves and prefer to complain on the internet about the results instead of getting involved.

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17 points

probably… if i had to decide between biden and trump i’d take biden, no question.

But let’s be honest here, both of them shouldn’t be a allowed to even run for presidancy. Both are way too old and one of them is a fucking convicted fellon.

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7 points

I agree, but as long as a minority of people under 30 bother to vote, why would they expect politicians to care about them?

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Ohhhh, young people didn’t vote hard enough.

The entire political scene is 70+ but it’s young peoples fault that the country is falling apart.

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https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/voter-turnout-rate-by-age-usa

Barely over 40%

Young people don’t get directly involved enough, the reason the whole political scene is over 70 is because younger alternatives don’t get elected.

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48 points

As a European, we’re just already assuming it will be Trump and will be pleasantly surprised if it is not that orange turd

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22 points

We in the upside down land will be checking which way the toilet flushes if Biden is elected, just to make sure.

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10 points

My friends outside the US in Berlin and Spain have said the same thing. Oof.

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5 points

Im thinking the same in America, and stocking up on supplies to make a break. Hopefully my passport visitation lasts long enough for other countries to realize some of us will need asylum

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Hold on hunny im busy watching the final season of the unites states of america.

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32 points

If the Biden dropped out and the democrats nominated a box of moldy dog shit, I’d still vote for the dog shit.

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6 points

I feel like that would only help ou chances…

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-25 points

Sounds like you’re in a cult.

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19 points

No, I just don’t support treasonous rapists. Do you?

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What would you do if the Democrat was also a treasonous rapist?

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Cult of personality dosen’t work that way. No one on the left is happy at all Biden is the nominee, they just know how insane fascism is and Trump is going to use the judiciary to get a seemingly legal stamp to end the republic and make himself a dictator, then privatization of all US assets.

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I didn’t say that it was a cult of personality.

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