15 points

If Biden continues, his legacy will be getting the fascist guy reelected.

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14 points

The legacy of the entire Democratic Party is enabling fascism. For at least the last 24 years.

Who’s the bigger fascist, the fascist party or the party who compromises with the fascists?

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2 points

The fascist, and then their voters.

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8 points

That’s an RBG move right thar

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1 point

He is moving towards more of a Feinstein situation. RBG was fully cognizant of her refusal to step down before she died, even writing a letter to Republicans asking they not be shit.

Feinstein didn’t even know where she was at the end of it.

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6 points

I’ve seen this one already. It’s a remake of the one with the lady judge.

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21 points

Yeah, a piece of me is concerned that if Biden drops out now, Kamala will have to start campaigning “from scratch”, which is a setback.

But the way things are now, it’s probably best if we just rip the Biden band-aid off now and do a Democrat party campaign reset. And the sooner the better. Kamala needs as much time to make up for Biden’s blunders as possible.

Also, honestly, the mistake that put us in this position happened in 2020. Biden never should have run for his first term. Because where we find ourselves now is the inevitable result of him having won his first term in 2020.

God. Kamala is under 60. What a breath of fresh air that would be.

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lol I’d sooner vote for neolib Biden than for that neolib pig Kamala 😂

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4 points

you really had to add ‘pig’?

stay classy lemmy

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She’s is a cop supporter.

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11 points

AFAIK they are referring to her prior job as Attorney General of California, literally working with the police, people seem to equate it to her being a cop herself.

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1 point

You will get absolutely what you deserve in 2024.

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1 point

All I am saying is fuck the cop. The Democratic Party is getting what it deserves for everything it did to get to where it is today.

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9 points

If it’s Kamala, she legally can keep/use all the campaign cash raised for Biden’s re-election too since her name is on the ticket Biden/Harris 2024.

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8 points

It was absolutely good that Biden run in 2020. His familiarity with the office allowed him to run the country from day 1 (remember how trump was blocking handover and didn’t help with transition of power?)

Biden doing foreign policy for Obama helped him tremendously with repairing all the relationships (he personally knew most of the politicians) that trump damaged and restoring NATO. Putin started invasion, because he was doubting that Biden will be able to bring NATO together in time (the invasion happened in February 2022, but or intelligence disclosed that they observed preparations as early as April 2021)

I don’t think anyone else from the 20 candidates we had in 2020 was capable of pulling this. Not because I don’t think they would be bad presidents, but because they would need time to ramp up

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3 points

Biden running in 2020 was a good decision. But he shouldve stepped down after like he promised. Whoever came next would have the legitimacy afforded by a proper primary, instead of being a crapshoot as swapping in Harris this late would be

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-1 points

He’s not going to drop out. Nobody voluntarily gives up that much power.

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5 points

Black woman? Suuure, Americans will certainly flock to her

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5 points

Obamas first term election result was pretty strong from what i remember

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3 points

back then it was still cool to pretend like you’re not racist the rise of Trump made it cool to openly hate hombres from shithole countries again

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2 points

Yep. Let’s do that instead of focusing on the fascists winning.

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3 points

But the way things are now, it’s probably best if we just rip the Biden band-aid off now and do a Democrat party campaign reset. And the sooner the better. Kamala needs as much time to make up for Biden’s blunders as possible.

The real problem with Biden isn’t the blunders he has committed so far, but the blunders he’s yet going to commit.

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7 points

I don’t get why people say that he should stay in the race at this point. He’s going to lose. The best bet is to kick him to the curb and get a better candidate. One who’s not 120 years old and is wholly unlikable.

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No matter who the candidate is, the media, and the GOP, and Trump, will still all ignore Trump’s entirely disqualifing attributes while attacking the Democrat over superficial bullshit. The media isn’t talking about right after Trump was found guilty he recieved the biggest donations in US history, or who is dumping millions into his operation. They aren’t covering Trump’s stump speeches full of absolute bullshit, I don’t think they’re even talking about him trying to disown project 2024 because of its obvious fascism, which apparently even his voters don’t like when it’s overly about over throwing the US government to install a dictator and privatization of the entire country’s resources for the ultra rich.

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1 point

Kamala Harris is the only one I could see being a replacement, but it might be too late for that switch to actually work. Then again, it would be too late for any switch to actually work in that case, so I guess we’d have to hope that Americans would willingly vote in a mixed Black & Asian American woman as president. Considering most of the population are probably sexist enough for it to affect their voting patterns, on top of 70% of the population being white and mostly also probably having a subconscious racial bias affecting their voting, I don’t have much hope with that working even if they did do it…

I would say “if Roe vs. Wade made most women realized how close to danger they are in this election, it could work”, but if that were the case then they’d already be voting blue no matter who. So idk, all it takes is for like 60% of white people to vote Republican to elect Trump as long as they win key swing states. The only way to prevent that from happening is mobilizing the non-white voterbase & the progressive women voterbase in important states, like what happened in Georgia in the 2020 election. But with progressive voters seeming extremely disillusioned with Democrats now, might not happen.

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It might be a bit early, but I could see AOC stepping up if the Dems were to put a huge campaign behind her.

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1 point

iirc AOC explicitly said she would never run for president a few times in the past, although that was before the… current situation.

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2 points

I’m choking on my previous words right now

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21 points

Why does it matter if he’s up for the job or not? Trump is absolutely unfit, and also petty, malicious, vindictive, an enemy of democracy, an ally to our enemies, a compulsive liar, a 34x convicted felon, a rapist, a scammer, a pedophile, a seditionist, a traitor, and so many other things that shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near positions of power.

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Because Trump is such an existential threat.

If a serial killer was for sure coming to your house to kill your family, would you open the door for Barney Fife just because you think “well I won’t open the door for the serial killer”?

Or would you maybe ask the police HQ to send a more competent opposition to the serial killer rather than just welcoming Barney Fife with open arms, because “after all, he’s not the serial killer that’s on his way.”

There’s 5 months before the serial killer shows up. That’s more than double how long the entire election cycle for other countries takes.

Plenty of time for HQ to send actual backup, instead of who was already in the neighborhood and offers very little protection against the killer.

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4 points

I agree with you in that regard. But they’re probably not going to send anyone except Barney. We can’t control the DNC. Short of revolt, all we can do is write the DNC and our senators, and protest. In the end they’re the ones making the choice.

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5 points

Why does it matter if he’s up for the job or not

we’re supposed to be electing people to govern well so the country prospers. instead we’ve been electing lesser-evils for so long that the country is garbage now

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I understand. What I’m saying is that in this situation neither of them are up for the job, but the alternative is openly hostile to everything this country stands for. The decision given our options is clear to me.

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2 points

There isn’t just one alternative. The dems could put up a new nominee. They have 4 months. It’s plenty of time. Biden doesn’t even have to step aside.

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The decision given our options is clear to me.

Here are some of the names I’ve heard floated so far: Harris, Buttigieg, Whitmer, Newsome. Are you telling me that Biden is a better choice than any of these? Especially when polling shows some of them beating Trump by 2-3%. (While Biden is currently losing by 1%.)

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8 points

This is a popularity contest, as it’s always been. There’s more people that want to vote for Trump than there is for Biden. Hinging an entire election on the never-Trumps is fucking risky.

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That’s a sad statement to make about a few hundred million voters.

But…it also perfectly aligns with their history.

Last time they de-throned a fascist who threatened global peace and stability it required the ill-judged intervention of a 3rd party…who ironically thought crippling the US Pacific Fleet would do the opposite.

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14 points

So you want a weak candidate to run against him?

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No. But since one is, and we are powerless to change that, it doesn’t matter. Trump is absolutely, by, and far, the worst candidate, and worst president, in the lifetime of anyone alive today. He’s a pathetic, disgusting, excuse for a human being, and isn’t qualified to run anything, let alone the most powerful country in the world. I don’t care if his opposition is a chimpanzee, or a literal pile of garbage. Either option would be preferable to him.

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10 points

But we aren’t powerless. Talk to your local Democrats. Heck, email the white house. Making us feel powerless is part of manufactured consent.

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4 points

Tick tock mother fucker.

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