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Doest the first amendment clearly state the government cannot enforce or prevent religioun.

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It says:

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

It’s definitely not as clear as one might expect out of a modern legal document. That being said, the precedent here is very straightforward, and any ruling in favor of the law would be a huge shift in how the separation of church and state is applied.

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That being said, the precedent here is very straightforward, and any ruling in favor of the law would be a huge shift in how the separation of church and state is applied.

Good thing the Supreme Court respects precedent. Otherwise they could decide to just change the interpretation of the Constitution to allow states to establish their own state religion, since the Constitution specified “Congress”.

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Or as we saw in Bremerton, they will just straight up lie about the facts of the case to issue the ruling they want.

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since the Constitution specified “Congress”.

It’s amazing to me how many people don’t realize that’s EXACTLY how it was originally meant. The first 10 Amendment, commonly known as the Bill of Rights, didn’t originally apply to the States and that most definitely included the 1st (and the 2nd for those of you keeping track at home.)

That didn’t happen until SCOTUS created the “Incorporation Doctrine” some years after the passage of the 14th Amendment in 1868, over 100 years after the founding of the United States.

So yeah, before 1930ish it would have been entirely legal for the State of Louisiana to establish a State religion and in fact some of the original States actually levied Religious Taxes and distributed the money to various Christian Denominations.

The United States was built from the ground up to function as a collection of sovereign States moderated by a relatively weak Federal Government, nearly the opposite of how things work today. Its a good chunk of the reason why our Government and Judiciary are such a mess, they weren’t designed for what they’ve become.

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If the law goes through, there’s an obvious solution: display it alongside its equivalents. I bet that would be very educational for a lot of people.

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This is the thing we found out way back in the 1500s and 1600s. The various teams don’t play nice with each other. The only reason they are accepting of one another at the moment is common enemy. The second that State religion is permitted, South Baptist and Catholics are going to be kicking each other’s teeth in.

There’s a shit ton of money to be had in the church. No one is going to let some other team take it willingly. They will absolutely eat each other and in the process wreck collateral damage unlike anything anyone has seen since the 17th century. That’s not guessing, that’s like a for sure outcome. We’ve got a little under 20 centuries worth of history that tells us what the outcome is every time.

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Now let’s watch the Supreme Court interpret the constitution to further permit the integration of church & state.

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That’s exactly what these obviously unconstitutional laws are really about. An opportunity to get a case before SCOTUS so they can reverse decades/centuries of precedent.

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Why not display the original from the Torah? In the original Hebrew language?

Or at least display all three versions as written in the Protestant Bible.

Seems kind of silly though; it would make much more sense for Christians to display Deuteronomy 6:4-15, since that’s what Jesus stated was the greatest commandment.

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Well, sure, if they weren’t misrepresenting their motives. The real motive is indoctrination and the incorporation of a specific flavor of Christianity into all aspects of USAian society, transforming it into a theocracy. They’re not particularly subtle about this. :)

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The part they haven’t appeared to think through is what subset of subset of Christianity are they going for. They could talk to the people in Salem, MA. about that, but they won’t.

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And they would never display quotes from sermon on the mound because its too woke.

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“blessed are the cheese makers?” “it’s not meant to be taken literally my dear, it refers to any manufacturer of dairy products…”

In a 2-hour quote fest, that is my favorite. The particularly arrogant tone of the response while being completely incorrect about one of humanity’s noble attempts at what a better world looks like just kills.

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These commandments that I give you today are to be on your hearts. 7 Impress them on your children. Talk about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up. 8 Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads. 9 Write them on the doorframes of your houses and on your gates.

Now, this one, I’d like to see.

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Some religious Jewish people do actually wear parts of their scriptures, at least part of the time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tefillin

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Supposedly you get accosted at Israeli airports with guys trying to tie them on you if you’re a secular Jew.

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