110 points

defund…

the…

police.

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40 points

It’s wild to me that republicans were spreading the message that Harris was going to defund the police if she got in office.

SHE’S A DAMN COP HERSELF!

This election was nothing but absurdity and a mockery of this nation.

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16 points

This election, similar like the one in Romania demonstrated how possible is to manipulate people’s beliefs by social media.

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17 points

Deny Delay Defund

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5 points

Careful posting that. UHC might try to copyright claim that too.

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As someone from a country with functioning police: It appears to me like the USA’s problem is that they don’t fund the police enough, especially their training.

Here the first training for police takes two years, and after that they still regularly have to continue training. It’s a hard process and only the ones who’re suitable make it.

In the USA it takes three months, of course your police doesn’t work properly. Defunding the police would absolutely not fix that.

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16 points

Defund the police originally meant “stop giving the local police departments high budgets for military surplus gear & vehicles”

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4 points

This. Well, sort of. Maybe I’m seeing too much of my own experiences here but I feel like they could really stand to be regulated like licensed health professions. Minimum of an associates, sit for board exams, and that board exists to protect the public from you and has the authority to strip or restrict that license.

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90 points

While this is egregious, it’s not uncommon. The highest paid (including overtime) positions in pretty much every municipality are police. If they weren’t police, much of that overtime would be called racketeering.

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39 points

But they provide protection. Oh shit, they are literally the mob

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9 points

It’s easier and you make more money by being the legitimate source than by being the mob.
Plus, who is gonna investigate you then?

The mafias all went into legitimate business decades ago and we are seeing effects much later. I mean look into real Italian Olive oil and why no one buys it anymore.

Corporations killing people and the mafias having their kids go to colleges to learn from them how to better profit, it’s a wonder we can’t tell them apart anymore.

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52 points

It’s wild how people can quit/resign and somehow that’s good enough.

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I don’t understand how she would get an extra $12k a month if she worked another year? I can’t think of many things I wouldn’t do for $12k .

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43 points

Overtime counts in their pension calculations.

We saw similar things after 9/11. Where for a year they had stupid levels of overtime, and it skewed the numbers.

Yes this is wild. Yep outrageous there should be a limit to this kind of thing

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20 points

See, it’s disgusting to me to say “FUCK THE NYPD” during 9/11…and it’s also disgusting to me NOT to say “FUCK THE NYPD”.

So I’m torn…

But also, FUCK THE NYPD!

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12 points

They have strong unions; and are the one union that conservatives seem to like and support.

In my state the state pension is calculated by your highest 5 years; so yeah if you can triple you salary via overtime it makes sense financially.

But ACAB

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13 points

That is outrageous. Overtime shouldn’t affect pension at all.

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4 points

I get that we all hate cops here, and believe me, I do, but why wouldn’t any labor count toward your retirement? That’s ridiculous.

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9 points

Yup. All hours worked should be included in pension calculations. The problem is the scamming done by cops and their unions, and the inclusion of hours worked for entities other than the actual PD (ie: stores, markets, security, etc).

No cop should be able to use their uniform to work for a third party and have those hours count towards their publically-funded pension.

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3 points

Should be base pay, for any job cop or not. Especially DB pensions. Overtime is your own money if you want to save it.

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If she’s guilty of impropriety, retirement won’t save her. It’s not like “Welp, she retired, our hands our tied now,”

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12 points

Yep, definitely. I’m also expecting that the next administration will go hard with law and order.

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1 point

I don’t actually recognize this person, but if she’s sucking Trump’s dick she’s safe in any case. The headline about retirement is irrelevant.

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Also see Matt gatez

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8 points

See matt gaetz

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it’s not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they’re investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers’ names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with ‘law enforcement experience’ and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It’s called “Wandering Cops.”

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: “testilying.” Yet it’s almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don’t, they aren’t cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of “qualified immunity” renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past ‘qualified immunity’ is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That’s the solution.

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