Schaetzel suggested that Floyd died of high levels of catecholamines, a neurohormone associated with the flight-or-fight response, or Takotsubo myocarditis, a heart condition caused by intense emotional or physical experiences.

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DOJ opposing, but who listens to them anymore? They had four years to handle the Trump situation, and in a month they’ll be taking their orders from him.

https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/doj-urges-judge-reverse-decision-allowing-derek-chauvin-review-george-floyds

IMO this is all to remind Trump that Chauvin exists hoping for a pardon.

as part of the former Minneapolis police officer’s efforts to challenge his conviction on a federal civil rights charge

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Schaetzel suggested that Floyd died of high levels of catecholamines, a neurohormone associated with the flight-or-fight response, or Takotsubo myocarditis, a heart condition caused by intense emotional or physical experiences.

Experiences such as… being pinned to the ground by a murderous thug and choked with his knee on your neck for nine minutes?

This mother fucker.

Unfortunately I can no longer find the uncensored version of this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clSpERAWR3o <-- If anyone else is familiar with this and knows of the uncensored hosted online somewhere, I’d love to know. This was very nearly the first video that made me realize something different was going to happen after this police killing.

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If you do find the original version please share it!

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Will do! All you are really missing are a log of F-bombs, but it detracts a bit from the emotion of the situation to have them all bleeped out, IMO.

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Schaetzel suggested that Floyd died of high levels of catecholamines, a neurohormone associated with the flight-or-fight response, or Takotsubo myocarditis, a heart condition caused by intense emotional or physical experiences.

What exactly was the cause of the intense emotional and physical experience in this case? Because that sure as fuck still sounds like murder to me.

If you’re anaemic and I cut your arm and don’t let you do anything about it and you slowly bleed to death, I still was the murderer even if the anaemia killed you.

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“Your honor, he died from lack of oxygen and not because I strangled him”

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He wasn’t breathing when I was strangling him, therefore, your honor, I am innocent

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AKA the Eggshell Skull rule. I also don’t see how it matters since the underlying cause was still the officers use of force.

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TIL. Unfortunately I feel like we live in a post-precedence world. As though somehow they’re going to say, “sure, any normal jury would go with the eggshell rule…but you’re no normal jury are you? You’re special. You can see right through that EsTaBlIsHeD pReCeDeNcE hogwash and make the REAL right call 😈.”

And somehow it will work.

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No no. You don’t understand. It wasn’t the knee on his neck that killed him. It was his feelings about the knee on his neck.

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If Trump pardons this fuck we’re all marching on Washington, right?

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Who’s we? If it’s the group that didn’t bother showing up to vote, I wouldn’t hold your breath.

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“I have muh internet, muh couch and muh TV…I’m gud” - Americans who didn’t show to vote.

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Oof, that choice of words…

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If you are waiting for the infamous straw that broke the camels back, I’m afraid it broke long ago, the camel is dead and nothing happened.

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Shit will straight up explode everywhere if so

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Oh god, yes, it will, and I guarantee this time people will be armed.

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I am not from the US, so I might be out of league here, but haven’t recent US protest movements been somewhat ineffectual?

In a global context, successful protests movements tend to take active measures; blockading of transport and key commercial zones, organisation on a level that makes security forces ask themselves uncomfortable questions.

To be fair, such movements also tend to have very strange support (be it broad based or high approval amongst a very large minority).

It is not my intention to be defeatist or overly critical, just some thoughts. I could be wrong.

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Sadly, yes. U.S. protest movements are generally not enough to make change. It takes a massive swing in public opinion before politicians consider doing something about it. Protesting helps, but it usually isn’t enough. It took more than protesting to end the Vietnam War. Americans were majority in favour of it at the height of the protesting. And even when it started getting unpopular with the majority, Nixon didn’t do anything about it until it benefitted him.

The only case I can think of where protesting (mostly) was enough- if you include the protests that did get violent and were deemed riots- is the civil rights movement. Even then, it took Kennedy getting assassinated for Johnson to put it through as a part of Kennedy’s legacy. Was Kennedy ever going to push a civil rights act through? Was it all political hot air? We’ll never know.

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Trump pardons this fuck

What a beautiful way to stoke division after the recent sliver of solidarity after the CEO assassination

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There will be more

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Only half his sentence is federal (violating Floyd’s civil rights). Trump can’t pardon the murder charges.

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As we’ve seen recently, there are things that individuals can do to make a difference.

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Maybe Derek and Luigi could be in Gen Pop together.

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“a neurohormone associated with the flight-or-fight response”

Huh, I wonder what could have caused this response???

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