In over 30 years of practice, Dr. Errol Billinkoff rarely saw a man without kids come into his Winnipeg clinic to get a vasectomy. But since the pandemic began, he says it’s become an almost daily occurrence.

And he’s not alone.

“At first, I thought I was the only one who was noticing this,” Billinkoff, who brought a no-scalpel vasectomy procedure to Winnipeg in the early 1990s, told CBC News in a November interview.

“But I am part of an international chat group where doctors who do vasectomies participate and the topic came up, and it’s like everybody notices it.”

94 points

This is what happens when the conservatives threaten the right to an abortion. Drastic measures have to be taken.

No kid should be born unloved or a woman have her life threatened because too many ignorant folks think she is sinful for getting healthcare or evil for not raising more wage slaves for the bourgeoisie.

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I disagree but unless we get actual data on why people are choosing not to have kids then we don’t really know for sure.

I’d say the major reason is wealth inequality, cost of living, inflation, housing prices, etc. Everything’s too expensive… everything. It’s getting to the point that life isn’t even worth living anymore, as its just a repetitive cycle to work and pay bills. I both can’t afford to have a kid, nor would I want to bring one into this hellscape.

Again no way to know the real reasons unless we get the data.

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It’s money first and foremost. People are struggling to survive by themselves. They can’t afford kids. So conservatives get rid of abortion. They frame it as a religious issue, but it’s only such for their ignorant followers. For those monied individuals at the top its purely about having an ever growing slave caste to exploit. Can’t have infinitely growing profits without an infinitely growing base of suckers to sell shit to.

It’s also about freedom. Self determination. And the general state of the world. Nothing of substance is being done about climate change. We’re staring down the barrel of WWIII. Late Stage capitalism.

It’s a confluence of factors that taken together paint a particularly bleak future.

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Im planning on getting one soon, and it’s definitely this for me.

Also I tend to believe climate scientists who say shit is going to get interesting within the next 20 years… not really something I’d feel good about bringing a kid into.

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One data point and I’m American, but figured I’d give my two cents on why I did it.

In addition to all the reasons you listed I think that my own mental health is an obstacle, and also the increasingly limited access to women’s healthcare.

Making the decision to not have kids was a complex issue for me as I imagine it is for others too. Tbh the political and economic climate was probably the final push I needed, but there’s probably at least 10 reasons in total.

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6 points

Did Canada ban abortion ?

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All the conservative mps have voted against support of abortions recently and they’re currently projected to a win a majority government in the future.

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Let’s get clear i hate pp and the con as much a everybody here but pp never ever talked about removing abortion rights, he actually said the opposite. I’ll reiterate pp is a loser, he has no real agenda, and his whole camapign is basically fuck trudeau. But he never said abortions right were on the table.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/debate-on-abortion-rights-erupts-on-parliament-hill-poilievre-vows-he-won-t-legislate-1.6880392

A common sense Conservative government will not legislate on abortion and therefore would never use this section of the Constitution pertaining to this matter," he said.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/poilievre-same-sex-marriage-abortion-1.7222881

In an interview with Liberal MP Nathaniel Erskine-Smith, who hosts a podcast called Uncommons, Alberta Conservative MP Arnold Viersen also stressed his social conservative credentials on other issues, saying he wants protections for what he calls the “pre-born,” supports Alberta Premier Danielle Smith’s transgender policies and would vote to criminalize cannabis possession again if given the opportunity.

Asked by Erskine-Smith about a hypothetical future bill to overturn same-sex marriage, Viersen said, “I vote gay marriage down.”

In a media statement issued Monday, Poilievre said Viersen’s statements and positions “do not represent the positions of the Conservative Party, or myself as leader.”

“As our party’s policy book, adopted by party members, has said for years, ‘a Conservative Government will not support any legislation to regulate abortion.’ When I am prime minister, no laws or rules will be passed that restrict women’s reproductive choices. Period,” Poilievre added

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/rayes-abortion-poilievre-1.7362640

Poilievre has said that if he’s elected prime minister, his government will not support any legislation to regulate abortion.

“As the Party’s policy book, adopted by Party members, has said for years, ‘a Conservative Government will not support any legislation to regulate abortion,’” said Poilievre’s spokesperson, Sebastian Skamski, in a media statement.

“When Canadians elect Pierre Poilievre as Prime Minister, no laws or rules will be passed that restrict women’s reproductive choices. Period.”

Once again just to be clear. Fuck pp and his cons🫡

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Yes, but also conservatives are frequently lying bastards who promise to not make things worse and then make things worse. The US supreme court judges aren’t Canadian, but they are conservatives and the recently appointed ones all said that Roe v Wade was settled law and they wouldn’t change it,.

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Oh yeah totally, i don’t trust them at all. rich people are pieces of shit and those that cater to them are shit eater.

Here’s another interesring one. Even tough it’s already 2 years old.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/abortion-rights-canada-morgentaler-court-1.6439612

Personally as a french canadian i have the easy way of voting bloc. I might vote for the npd again, but i don’t see Jagmeet ever being able to get over the xenophobia… so yah alot of fun time on the way~🫠

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75 points

I’ve decided I don’t want to have kids at all.

My wife is taking it better than my son and daughter are.

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72 points

When animals are over stressed, unable to provide the basics of survival, and constantly dealing with external threats they tend to not have babies.

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4 points

For real? I didn’t know that.

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TYL! 🌈🌟

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64 points

Why would I force another human into this shitty existence?

Also condoms suck and raw dick is just better.

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11 points

yea same. condoms suck.

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-44 points

Syphilis and gonorrhea must love you.

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52 points

Wow, I didn’t know it was impossible not to stick your dick in every passing stranger. Here I was only having sex with people I know and who have been tested like a weirdo.

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29 points

As someone who’s had a vasectomy: it’s very hard to not stick my dick in a total stranger. That MTV advert with the skates is a more than daily occurrence, and I don’t even skate. Luckily, due to my vasectomy, there are no babies.

Only six STDs so far, so could be worse.

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ikr Here I am married 23 years and no STD’s from sex. I think HellsBelle comment quite strange but I suppose if you live in the kind of world they seem to be living in then it could be an issue. Do they know that casual sexual intercourse with random people carries an amount of risk even with the protection?

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21 points

Kind of slut shamie don’t you think?

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10 points

Well do you ask your partners if they have STDs?

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5 points

If you’re going to mention STDs to scare people, go with the untreatable ones. The two you mentioned require an antibiotic and abstaining from sex for a bit. Love is fleeting, but Herpes is forever.

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52 points

I’m sorry, there is an international chat group where a bunch of doctors that perform vasectomies congregate and talk about vasectomies?

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Gotta share the best practices, its like the postmarket os matrix chat where tech enthusiasts support each other improving builds ;)

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5 points

Too specific analogy.

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lol all about that postmarket

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I mean, yeah, why not? There are international whatevers for almost anything, specially professional practices. It’s less cumbersome and cheaper than relying on regulatory bodies to organize and run conventions or seminars. Most of these chats are informal and born from that kind of events as well.

Something I also learned from working with the health sector is that there are really very few 100% dedicated to their niche specialists in every area. Sure, there are many heart surgeons, but very few experts on ventricular septal defect surgery on children. And some of that stuff can be so complex as to be a sole area of dedicated study. It allows these kind of informal forums and encourages a strong mentor-apprentice dynamics. So it is not rare they hit the group chat every once in a while. I also learned there are over a dozen different ways to make a vasectomy procedure and some doctors know how to do a few but not all of them and there are reasons to prefer some over the others depending on the patient.

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13 points

Welcome to the Internet - you’re new here, I take it?

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5 points

People join chatrooms to talk about their favorite TV shows or their jobs. This is no different.

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Vasectomies without Borders

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Is that weird? I’m in HVAC and I talk with fellow HVAC people all over the world. This is a thing with most fields. It doesn’t seem at all weird that there would be groups of urologists online.

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Probably. I can imagine doctors being like “Hey y’all check out my favorite vasectomizin’ wrench. You should get one of these, it’s a true 0 degree, tightens down them nuts in hard to reach spaces.”

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I’m imagining a lads’ group where they post the gnarliest botched vasectomies

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Probably slightly more generalized like a urologist chat.

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