I just can’t find a decent email client that looks like it’s from the last 20 years. Geary and Evolution both appear to be pretty modern but something about using Gmail with a Yubikey just doesn’t work and neither of them will connect to my account. Both on Fedora and OpenSUSE. Thunderbird works but it’s so old fashioned and Betterbird doesn’t look much better. What’s everyone else using?

95 points

Thunderbird all the way 🙌

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I have used Thunderbird for years. HOWEVER:

  • I don’t know why Thunderbird can’t get a reliable, functional search ability. It’s such garbage. I constantly have to delete my entire search index and start from scratch, it is immensely frustrating.
  • The problems connecting to gmail are also so frustrating. Yes, they are Google’s fault but if you make an e-mail client you maybe need to add a workaround for the world’s most popular e-mail provider. It’s totally fixable because you can apply those fixes manually.
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I don’t know why Thunderbird can’t get a reliable, functional search ability. It’s such garbage. I constantly have to delete my entire search index and start from scratch, it is immensely frustrating.

Maybe see if Betterbird’s search works better for you

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Wow very interesting thank you! I like that it can be run side-by-side from the same profile to test it out. If search was fixed I would have never migrated so much of my e-mail to gmail.

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1 point

Are you taking about the semi recent rewrite or the old discontinued version?

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1 point

All versions over the past decade including the latest one

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43 points

Thunderbird for desktop computer, K-9 mail for mobile phone.

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19 points

Did you know K-9 mail is soon to be thunderbird mobile

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5 points

true

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Sort of. They are going to keep maintaining K-9 mail with the current branding but there will also be a version of K-9 that is called is called Thunderbird for Android that will be themed like Thunderbird desktop.

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34 points

Thunderbird is fine.

Maybe I have too much grey in my beard - I don’t care how modern it looks.

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Nah it has nothing to do with your beard colour.

I like it a lot and I’m almost as old or as young as Thunderbird is.

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I gotta tell you… If you’re almost as old or young as Thunderbird that makes you a graybeard. Do me a favor. Next time you get out of a chair, try not to make a noise. We all find out we’ve turned old somehow.

Just so its clear this comment is coming from a loving place I love Thunderbird and you seem nice and I enjoyed your comment. Just razzing you a little bit as someone else who’s also around the same age as Thunderbird

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2 points

I don’t have a beard yet but sure.

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31 points

Thunderbird. Hate the redesign. If it ain’t broke dont fix it.

K9 for phone

I still have pgp signs, but no one has used it to encrypt back to me in years. Don’t know why I keep those on there and active

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Thunderbird + K9 Mail are my way to go, too.

Though I mostly do like the redesign, since it fixes some long standing issues with Thunderbird (e.g. not being able to select a multi line message view (“cards view”), instead of the traditional table view.) The search bar being always on top annoys me each time I open it, so I understand a more long time Thunderbird user might have more nitpicks. Almost all of the changes can be reverted through settings, which I find awesome.

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I still have pgp signs, but no one has used it to encrypt back to me in years. Don’t know why I keep those on there and active

Me too. I mean if I got an email with someone’s public key attached I’d send an encrypted reply. One day the person you’re emailing will eventually do the same lol. (I mean I do get people sending me encrypted emails sometimes, but most of the time it’s “wtf is this .asc file you’ve attached to this email”)

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The refactor fixed a ton of issues

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The redesign is actually what convinced me to switch to Thunderbird. Otherwise I would’ve never used it since for me it was an eyesore!

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27 points

Thunderbird on desktop, although I don’t love it.

FairEmail on Android.

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FairEmail is fucking awesome. If it were a sentient being or object, I’d pound it so hard. With consent, of course. Does everything I want and then some: fast, strips everything down to text, lets me appear to send from any address on my domains, blocks trackers, is constantly (almost literally) updated and improved, custom notification handling per folder, custom colors for messages/folders…

I’d pay for it again to get a desktop version, no hesitation about it. TB is /fine/ but… that one meme with the guy looking back at the other girl

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Just installed it and woof, this is very good looking. I was waiting for K9 mail to get a few more updates before making it my daily driver, but this works really well already.

Also love an app with an FAQ that actually answers questions I’m thinking lol

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Thank you for mentioning FairEmail, and thank you @wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world, for elaborating on what makes it great.

Thanks to your recommendations I installed it last night and paid the $6 one-time license fee to unlock the advanced features. Being able to set custom notification sounds per sender is a feature I’ve been wanting on my phone for years. I finally have it now and it’s already changing my life for the better.

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^__^ yay! I’m glad to hear it. I’ve been using it for… 4 years, I believe, and it’s just been fantastic for me, so I like to spread the word whenever it comes up.

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I love fairemail. I had an issue with some mails I was getting regularly not rendering properly and the guy was so helpful that I donated again even though I already had the paid one (which confused him!)

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