Meta is asking California Attorney General Rob Bonta to block OpenAI’s planned transition from a non-profit to for-profit entity.

In a letter sent to Bonta’s office this week, Meta says that OpenAI “should not be allowed to flout the law by taking and reappropriating assets it built as a charity and using them for potentially enormous private gains.”

The letter, which was first reported on by The Wall Street Journal and you can read in full below, goes so far as to say that Meta believes Elon Musk is “qualified and well positioned to represent the interests of Californians in this matter.” Meta supporting Musk’s fight against OpenAI is notable given that Musk and Mark Zuckerberg were talking about literally fighting in a cage match just last year.

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Fuck Meta. Fuck OpenAI.

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And, I’d like to add, fuck Musk.

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3 points

Fuck Musk, from Chanel

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1 point

Isn’t it enough that we have Fight Fight Fight?!?

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26 points

But maybe they can fuck each other a bit?

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12 points

“Let them fight fuck”

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Love it when I can upvote an entire comment chain.

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Just cos meta supports it doesnt mean its bad. The enemy of my enemy etc etc

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Yeah I mean zuck and musk don’t want it because it removes an extra hoop that OpenAI has to jump through to compete, but all said and done fuck all three of them for taking another leap in human achievement and making it a “profit for investors at any cost.” And fuck OpenAI especially for pretending that wasn’t the case all along

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And fuck OpenAI especially for pretending that wasn’t the case all along

I’m not sure they were ever pretending. I saw another Lemmy post about the Musk-OpenAI email exchanges from 8 years ago.

They seemed very open that the long term plan was to become a for profit company. They said they weren’t ready yet and rejected Elon’s demand to make him majority owner and merge with Tesla.

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Elon’s biggest enemy is his own ego and wanting to be relevant

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Open AI got a taste of that Microsoft money and everything changed. Well Sam changed course which had a lot to do with the fact that he was fired for 3 days. I do believe in the beginning they fully intended to be non profit and open.

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And they make a valid point. Imagine if all startups started as non profit, raised their assets with tax reduction, and then decided to go for profit when it suited them? That’s tax evasion.

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Thats a great idea u mind if i steal it?

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pretty sure enemy of my enemy is still my enemy

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The enemy of my enemy is a useful temporary ally.

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it’s like two bears fighting for the right to eat me alive 🥲

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75 points

Meta sucks, but here they are very right

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Meta sucks, but here they are very right hypocritical*

Don’t worry fam I got you

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Meta sucks, but here they are very right hypocritical immoral*

Don’t worry fam I got you

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Meta is just trying to protect their intellectual property, meaning everything anyone has created on any of their platforms.

Yep, they own all of it, including every single comment anyone has written on Whatsapp.

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they’re also making their own ai and don’t want openai to keep being better

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Ironic they are demanding government regulation / interdiction.

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Big corp loves regulation of its competition most of all.

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don’t just block them. force all AI companies that use online content for research to move to a nonprofit and require them to provide their source code openly.

tax payer dollars paid to create that content so that means that AI is tax payer bought.

don’t like it? train your models on a closed network that’s behind a paywall.

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Dont limit this to AI companies. All social media companies should be forced to become nonprofits and their code AGPL’d

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But the AGPL does not prevent you from doing commercial activities

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Being nonprofit also doesn’t prevent you from doing commercial activities.

But i think the idea would be if they are forced to be nonprofit and their code open-sourced then there is now transparency in how their LLMs are trained and operate.

But it’s a bit silly to try to make AI companies nonprofits to begin with since they could just go to another country with “better” laws if they are punished too heavily in one country.

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People gotta eat. There’s nothing wrong with selling open source software

The most important part is that the people and the government can see how the suggestion and feed algorithms are written, so they they can make them change them if they’re found to lead to increased harm, such as suicides.

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That’s beyond stupid.

If you don’t want bots scraping your content, then don’t put it up on the public internet.

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I think you’re misunderstanding the origin of the Internet.

I was there, I know what made the Internet amazing before it was sold out for corporate interests.

It was inspired by another technology that was, in many ways, the Internet of the early 20th century. I’m referring to HAM radio.

HAM radio is fun because of the strict regulations operators need to follow and the communities that are fostered in those regulations.

the early Internet was not only built by those same people, but had fostered the same kind of spirit behind HAM. corporate interests broke the dam on a lack of regulation and have been flooding the web for decades since.

if we want to return to any semblance of what the Internet supported at the turn of the century, we must increase regulations that prohibit the abuse and theft of online intellectual property.

If a company can be considered a person, then I see no reason why each of my online contributions can’t be one as well. and as such no reason why each of those contributions can’t be afforded the same protections of personhood giants like UHC, Amazon, OpenAI can benefit from.

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Do artists not deserve the right to decide who profits from their art, even if it’s posted to the internet? Would it be ethical for me to sell posters of artwork I did not create without the artists permission?

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Do artists not deserve the right to decide who profits from their art, even if it’s posted to the internet?

No, I don’t think they deserve that “right.”

Would it be ethical for me to sell posters of artwork I did not create without the artists permission?

Ethics vary from person to person and change with the times. I think it would be ethical because I do not support the ownership of ideas.

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This is one of the funnier things I see frequently on here. People both champion free and open source code and data that can be used for anything… until it is used for anything they even mildly dislike.

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it’s disturbing how many people blindly agree with you.

free and open does not mean open menu to make money from.

I shared this comment on Lemmy with the full intention to allow the community to benefit from it, not for a company with an inflated valuation of $1.2B to steal, bottle, and sell to the world.

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56 points

90% of Facebook content is AI generated content now. I cant even see what my friends are doing anymore. Makes me want to just delete it. But, I do occasionally see stuff from family and friends, which is the only reason I keep it. Some people I only stay in touch with through Facebook. But seriously, fuck that company.

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43 points

You won’t miss it, you think you will but you honestly won’t.

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37 points

Getting rid of Facebook was easily one of the best things I’ve done. The people that are important will find other ways to reach out.

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It reminds me of Facebook friends who are worthless

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19 points

Pull the plug, you won’t look back.

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14 points

Start a text group chat.

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After much debate, we did … On WhatsApp :/

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4 points

Hey, you left reddit, didn’t you? Do you miss that?

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I have only used groups to ask questions. Do people still do that, go browse the Facebook feed? I thought that’s a grandma thing

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I got a Facebook again about 6 months ago so I could post our wedding photos for our friends. Before that I hadn’t had a Facebook in like 5 years.

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Here’s a thought. Leave Facebook and spend more time with family and friends wether it be in person, on the phone or over text. You’ll feel better for doing it and your family will be happy to hear from you. Deleted mine close to 10 years ago and have never had a desire to go back.

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I have yet to receive a single chat message that was AI generated. Being able to connect to old college buddies that I otherwise would loose contact with is literally the only use case for Facebook

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Im talking about the content on your feed, not messages.

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Sure, but my point is that nobody posts anything on Facebook anymore. Its just bots and, well, maybe grandmas.

Facebook today is essentially just an address book to check in on old friends when you’ve lost their contact info

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