Meta is asking California Attorney General Rob Bonta to block OpenAI’s planned transition from a non-profit to for-profit entity.
In a letter sent to Bonta’s office this week, Meta says that OpenAI “should not be allowed to flout the law by taking and reappropriating assets it built as a charity and using them for potentially enormous private gains.”
The letter, which was first reported on by The Wall Street Journal and you can read in full below, goes so far as to say that Meta believes Elon Musk is “qualified and well positioned to represent the interests of Californians in this matter.” Meta supporting Musk’s fight against OpenAI is notable given that Musk and Mark Zuckerberg were talking about literally fighting in a cage match just last year.
OpenAI was a nonprofit?!?
It’s a bit more complicated than that.
I think there’s a for-profit part of the business and a non-profit part.
They love small government and maximum Freedom until they want the government to restrict somebody’s freedom.
I’ve remembered Babylon 5 season 4 today. Specifically the part where the “good” Vorlons and the “bad” Shadows started erasing the shit out of worlds inhabited by lesser races who made the wrong choice of having traces of the opposing side.
Point being, you are being sarcastic about Republicans and rightfully so, but Clinton administration is the one that introduced mass surveillance in the USA, and now in Syria CNN praises HTS (Sunni jihadis) and Fox News highlight SDF (secular socialists). Though from what I’ve read, apparently they really honestly talk to each other, which is a surprising kind of coexistence, HTS leader’s words I took with scepticism, but SDF leaders too say they have no problem with HTS. HTS is a mix of ex-al-Qaeda and ex-ISIS, that’s how strange this is.
OK, politics again.
On the subject - I think turning a non-profit into for-profit while not letting go of datasets and such, legally allowed to be assembled in the context of it being non-profit, is kinda theft. So Facebook is right here. Circumstantially of course.
Hadn’t considered the ethics of transferring data acquired as a non-profit. It’s an interesting moral question - although I doubt this is Meta’s motivation (which is simply to tamp down competition).
Well, for me it’s the obvious first question. I guess I’m conditioned by, well, living in Russia, where something like this has led to the current regrettable situation.
don’t just block them. force all AI companies that use online content for research to move to a nonprofit and require them to provide their source code openly.
tax payer dollars paid to create that content so that means that AI is tax payer bought.
don’t like it? train your models on a closed network that’s behind a paywall.
That’s beyond stupid.
If you don’t want bots scraping your content, then don’t put it up on the public internet.
Do artists not deserve the right to decide who profits from their art, even if it’s posted to the internet? Would it be ethical for me to sell posters of artwork I did not create without the artists permission?
Do artists not deserve the right to decide who profits from their art, even if it’s posted to the internet?
No, I don’t think they deserve that “right.”
Would it be ethical for me to sell posters of artwork I did not create without the artists permission?
Ethics vary from person to person and change with the times. I think it would be ethical because I do not support the ownership of ideas.
I think you’re misunderstanding the origin of the Internet.
I was there, I know what made the Internet amazing before it was sold out for corporate interests.
It was inspired by another technology that was, in many ways, the Internet of the early 20th century. I’m referring to HAM radio.
HAM radio is fun because of the strict regulations operators need to follow and the communities that are fostered in those regulations.
the early Internet was not only built by those same people, but had fostered the same kind of spirit behind HAM. corporate interests broke the dam on a lack of regulation and have been flooding the web for decades since.
if we want to return to any semblance of what the Internet supported at the turn of the century, we must increase regulations that prohibit the abuse and theft of online intellectual property.
If a company can be considered a person, then I see no reason why each of my online contributions can’t be one as well. and as such no reason why each of those contributions can’t be afforded the same protections of personhood giants like UHC, Amazon, OpenAI can benefit from.
This is one of the funnier things I see frequently on here. People both champion free and open source code and data that can be used for anything… until it is used for anything they even mildly dislike.
it’s disturbing how many people blindly agree with you.
free and open does not mean open menu to make money from.
I shared this comment on Lemmy with the full intention to allow the community to benefit from it, not for a company with an inflated valuation of $1.2B to steal, bottle, and sell to the world.
Dont limit this to AI companies. All social media companies should be forced to become nonprofits and their code AGPL’d
People gotta eat. There’s nothing wrong with selling open source software
The most important part is that the people and the government can see how the suggestion and feed algorithms are written, so they they can make them change them if they’re found to lead to increased harm, such as suicides.
Being nonprofit also doesn’t prevent you from doing commercial activities.
But i think the idea would be if they are forced to be nonprofit and their code open-sourced then there is now transparency in how their LLMs are trained and operate.
But it’s a bit silly to try to make AI companies nonprofits to begin with since they could just go to another country with “better” laws if they are punished too heavily in one country.
Meta sucks, but here they are very right
Meta is just trying to protect their intellectual property, meaning everything anyone has created on any of their platforms.
Yep, they own all of it, including every single comment anyone has written on Whatsapp.
Meta sucks, but here they are very right hypocritical*
Don’t worry fam I got you
oh yeah, the “free” market
