119 points

"I don’t care what the millionaires think.”

If he made this the tagline for his entire campaign / next term, I’d feel much better about voting for him.

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99 points

That was Bernie’s tagline (well, billionaires rather than millionaires) before the DNC came together like Voltron to simultaneously consolidate around Biden and boot him out of the race.

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45 points

It felt extra bad when even Liz was in on it.

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I very much remember Liz was the last hold out on endorsing Biden. I was on her campaign.

Edit to add evidence:

Bernie Endorsed Biden Monday, April 13th 2020

Elizabeth followed 2 days later on Wednesday, April 15th 2020

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18 points

Last I heard he was listening to his family, all of which happen to be millionaires, including himself.

He’s just another arrogant, out of touch, privileged elite with no understanding of what the majority of Americans experience day to day.

His hubris was on full display in Friday’s interview, the stakes are clearly not the same for him. He has enough wealth and power to weather this fascist storm, unfortunately most of us do not.

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See, he didn’t say it before but only says it now, because now it’s PERSONAL. And did he really use the word “millionaires” instead of “billionaires?” If yes, he’s a goddam coward, and I thank him for letting me know.

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And did he really use the word “millionaires” instead of “billionaires?”

He was referring to a specific set of millionaires. The full quote is:

Since Biden’s disastrous debate performance on June 27, various Democratic donors have been sounding the alarm on whether he can beat Trump in November.

“I’m getting so frustrated by the elites in the party” calling for him to step down, the president fumed on MSNBC. “I don’t care what the millionaires think.”

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0 points

He cares what billionaires think.

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72 points

Fuck you for trying to spin it that way, Biden.

I don’t want you as the candidate because the shit you’re saying indicates you straight up don’t understand the stakes. You said that you’d “feel fine, because you gave it your all”. Meanwhile, I’ll be out here dodging fucking 3%er and Proud Boy paramilitary squads that Trump will surely deputize with an “official act”, which will be very legal and very cool as per the Tribunal of Six’s recent decision.

Your head is not in the game. You are stuck not only in the sunk-cost fallacy, but also up your own ass. You are not trying hard enough. You are not using the right tactics. At this point I seriously doubt you even understand what the right tactics are.

We are trying to fight against fascism, and you’re going to fucking hand it to the fascists. Get out of our fucking way.

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24 points

I’ve read a number of comments like yours and have always been curious about this sentiment.

I feel similarly iffy about the whole process. Despite that, I can’t think of a viable alternative at this point in time that wouldn’t lead to a disastrous result.

I genuinely want to know: if he does step down and give way to another candidate, who do you have in mind? Is it one person? Is it multiple? Or are we just hoping that if he steps down, a magical better candidate will show up?

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21 points

Harris, Newsom, and Whitmer would probably be my top 3 picks for viability. Of those three, I think Whitmer would be my favorite choice, but I think Newsom would be the most pragmatic choice (and to be clear, there is a LOT I don’t like about Newsom, despite the fact that I align with him on a decent number of issues) in the context of electability (white, male, a touch religious but not overly so, charismatic, great public speaker). I think Harris is uninspiring and the wrong choice for a TON of reasons, but the establishment will probably stick with her if they are somehow forced to not go with Biden simply because she’s currently VP.

But, you know, that’s what primaries are supposed to be. We’re not really supposed to have the DNC essentially just playing kingmaker and doing cloak and dagger shit behind the scenes so their Chosen One ends up guaranteed to clinch the nomination. Unfortunately, the DNC is basically run by corporatist neoliberals at this point, so they aren’t interested in doing that… and they’re also unwilling to admit that such attitudes are precisely how we got here in the first fucking place.

We got Trump because “it was her turn”. And I will NEVER fucking forgive Hillary for that. It’s abundantly clear that the “adults in the room” at the DNC have no fucking idea what they’re doing.

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16 points

Yeah, the best case scenario was Biden not running for 2024 from the beginning so we could have proper primaries, and align behind the winner. That’s how it should have been handled.

But it’s too late. None of the candidates you mentioned are strong enough to rally behind this late in the race. Each state would need to figure out a makeshift primary and then align, or DNC would have to choose, which would make it Harris by default. It would be an absolute disaster.

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2 points

Liberals should be buying guns by the crate right now.

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31 points

But did he slam them, too?

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Yea I’m so elite. That’s why I barely survive paycheck to paycheck, don’t have healthcare, don’t have much with regards to retirement funds, and have to ration my food. And I’m fucking 33.

Fuck you, you elitist old man. Democratic elite are showing their true colors, that they don’t give a fuck about us. We are trying to tell him that he’s going to lose to a fascist with his shitty debate performance, and he’s pretending it didn’t happen and trying to gaslight us. It’s not that we want trump because we don’t. But we are worried that his shit performance will depress the vote into not voting, which is a very real threat and will lead to fascism.

If we fall into fascism it won’t be the voters fault, it’ll be the fault of the elite ruling class. We didn’t have to go in this direction, but we have been going here because Republicans keep going further authoritarian and the Democratic party barely tries to push back.

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19 points

Whoaaaa…

Are you saying voters aren’t going to respond well to Biden telling them their concerns aren’t valid and no matter what he’s not listen to them?!

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12 points

Ikr? Crazy concept

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Oh don’t forget he believes inflation is made up, but then you see shit like this while looking at all the price increases https://x.com/interneth0f/status/1810667768917660141 And this just plays into the Anti-Biden ads I see on the road. Most of them just basically show clips of Biden saying the economy is great and inflation isn’t real, and asks the viewer do you look at your bills under Biden and think he is just lying to you or is he suffering from dementia?

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10 points

It’s just such a tone deaf response. I sent an email to my senators and rep asking them to listen to their constituencies regarding their election fears. Not that I think it will do much. But God, waiting around for this old man to lose to Trump while feeling powerless (yes, I’ll still vote) just sucks so much.

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Funny how I’m suddenly one of the elites. I guess my opinion doesn’t reach him, so his definition probably stands.

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