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Well, the one to the right (probably) isn’t a tankie though, but I approve their actions

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Yet I get called Tankie all the time … interesting.

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See that makes it sound like you’re getting called out on much more anti-voting sounding commentary than the above stated point of view

An image that isn’t helped by the fact that the post makes it seem that you are completely oblivious to how often tankies try to start fights defending the choice to abandon the most vulnerable for the sake of some bougie kid socialism accelerationist shit.

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I never advocate anti-voting rhetoric, but think any and all means should be used to defend a socialist revolution once it has occurred. The only thing i want ro accelerate is class conciousness, which must be achieved before a revolution can begin to occur, most humans are too brainwashed by Capitalist propaganda for that revolution to be successful.

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Pretty much all Marxists are called tankies at this point, and Grayox is a Marxist. I’ve even seen Anarchists called tankie.

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For Trump supporters it’s more like “Organize, Vote, Racist”.

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Gotta say, I’m confused as to why Dale Earnhardt is in this meme…

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Raise hell praise Dale

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He was very left leaning. He would vote for Biden to defeat Trump

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Til

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“Neoliberal shill” who has achieved more leftist policy goals in three and a half years than all US leftists combined have in the last 30.

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I don’t know whether or not that is true, but it is meaningless without considering what the other hand has also done in that period. You have to consider the net effect, not pick out isolated examples. Has the rate of wealth disparity growth even stopped increasing under Biden?

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Can a president realistically control that? They don’t control inflation.

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Yes. They can drive party policy goals through presidential policy.

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Printing a shitload of money and calling it “inflation reduction” is certainly the wrong way to help.

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I get this. Democrats are not left enough for me but all said and done I would love to live in a world where carter had a second term and a gore administration was running things for the top of the millenium and have hilary over trump and who knows she might have surprised us with some good stuff but at the least we would not have left the paris accords which might have done better with gore and no iraq invasion. maybe we would have had a war on global warming.

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I don’t know whether or not that is true, but it is meaningless without considering what the other hand has also done in that period.

So you don’t actually know if it’s true but you have vague feelings that it’s not what you want so therefore it’s not true. Ok then.

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There hasn’t been anything close to a leftist president in America since FDR.

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There hasn’t been anything close to a leftist president in America since FDR.

How FDR Saved Capitalism | Hoover Institution

During the economic crisis of the 1930s, many expected a socialist revolution. The revolution never came. Why? The man in the White House co-opted the left. By Hoover fellow Seymour Martin Lipset and Gary Marks.

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Lmao i didnt call him a leftist.

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Ah yes, FDR, who rounded up Japanese Americans and put them in concentration internment camps.

Which is a rather interesting parallel to Biden and Palestine, or Biden and US border patrol, or Biden and law enforcement.

All that to say it’s probably not possible to be the US president and not do heinously evil shit, and therefore voting for president needs to be strategic, pragmatic, and nuanced, rather than ideological

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Undoing fascist rules put in by the previous resident does not count as achieving “leftist policy goals”; implementation of permanent law does.

Meanwhile, people have lost abortion rights, the rule of law has basically been suspended for potential coup participants. So yeah, I’m just gonna say we’re not doing well. Meanwhile, I’m still going to vote Biden no matter what. We’ve already lost the democracy, but I’m going to delay the implementation of the far right authoritarian state for as long as possible.

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But abortion rights were lost because people refused to vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016.

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Do you really feel that this is a relevant thing to say to someone who says they’re voting for biden even if he’s 6ft underground?

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I wonder if people who use tankie (and similar) unironically would like a Fischer Price See n Say for politics. It would produce random quotes out of context and people can have fun putting them into arbitrary categories.

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