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Signal or WIRE.

When the article about end to end user encryption messaging platforms mentions neither I have to question why it’s even an article.

Signal or WIRE.

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It does mention Signal lower down the article

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How, in 2024, are people still using TEXTs??

There are so many apps for encrypted messaging, even fricken WhatsApp.

How do people still use text messages

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It’s an American thing.

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How do people still use text messages

Text is super simple. Built in to every phone, universal compatibility, no downloads/accounts to deal with, don’t have to track which of your friends is on which protocol…

There’s 1000’s of reasons to use something else, but it’s already there & takes zero effort to use which makes it the default.

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Showed this information to my boomer mother who then asked my also tech illiterate step father what he thought.

“We don’t send sensitive information through texts.”

The ignorance almost physically hurts… Thinking that only the actual message content is important.

Or ignoring the pictures we send and the private things I talk about with my mom.

Do I think that specifically my information would be useful to China? Likely not. But I also have no idea what all is possible with that kind of information in the aggregate.

At the very least, I assume they will use it to manipulate us even more with disinformation.

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Easier, imagine half the strangers you’ve met during the day reading your messages aloud with orcish laughs and judging the pictures.

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I’m so exhausted at people who answer like this.

It makes me feel crazy.

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But I also have no idea what all is possible with that kind of information in the aggregate

so does your mom and the general public. This idea and its impact is far too remote to people’s day to day life.

  • “Yes, they can collect all they want, why should I care?”
  • “My data is too insignificant to be meaningful for anyone, LMAO, do you think I am some kind of a CEO?”

it may help to try coming out with a story or incident that they can relate to. then again most of the time these stories will sound like a conspiracy theory,

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I don’t want WhatsApp & I avoid the 'stores, so it’s F-Droid options for me…

Any opinions on Jami?

I’m also seeing XMPP mentioned in the comments, so I might look at that a bit more…

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Saving you the bother, Signal is good, but requires phone number and the desktop client sucks, while the generally recommended federated FOSS things are all over-engineered and morally obsolete. One can’t rework XMPP into a modern standard, and it’s complex. Actually Signal’s authors have published a couple of articles explaining their choices in making it.

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Signal is good, but requires phone number

There are ways around that

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I found SimpleX Chat to be a fairly decent alternative without phone numbers.

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Session is very good and doesn’t require a phone number (like Signal).

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I don’t believe Signal requires a phone number anymore

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It does. You just don’t need to give it out to communicate anymore

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Ah gotcha. Thanks

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Clunky for the average joe

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In what way? I find it exactly the same as Signal but without needing to disclose my phone number (and therefore more anonymous). The user experience, imho, is the same.

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