213 points

I want to live in the timeline where things Bernie sees actually come true.

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If it weren’t for Hillary and the DNC being corrupt, Bernie would have destroyed trump in 2016. I know so many people where I was living in middle America that flipped from Bernie to Trump.

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27 points

I wasn’t in middle America, but experienced the same thing. I still don’t understand it. Is it just populism? If so, not good. I definitely shed friends in 2016.

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51 points

It’s because Trump advocates for change. Now it’s not good change but he’s definitely not a fan of the status quo, which gets you votes when the other guy is a Democrat centrist beholden to status quo-loving corporate donors.

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7 points

Populism boosted by new media (internet) vs. lobbyism striving to maintain status quo.

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It’s populism, but it’s a populism of “things definitely aren’t good and need to change”. Hope worked as a democratic message, the dems were seen as the less corporate party, then the reps ran a right wing populist while the dems ran a former first lady who wasn’t acknowledging their needs and fears. The current situation has become one in which the dems see every election in terms of social issues because they don’t see the reality: they’re the party of “we need adults to govern” and the reps are the party of emotive grievance. The dems can’t win the bigot vote by being bigoted enough. But they can win the frustrated vote by running on a platform of reasonable and solid change by those committed to it. But if they di they lose the billiojsires to the fascists.

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I never supported the orange (am Canadian so I don’t get a say) but after Bernie lost in 2016, I kind of wanted him to win (not enough to actually vote differently though).

Why? Cause I knew he would get us here faster.

If we are going on the wrong path before we correct course, might as well do it faster.

I want a revolution, I prefer FDR style, but I guess the only option is French style (which I don’t officially support).

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Alright but Hillary Clinton beat Bernie Sanders in the Primary Elections, so the “corruption” you’re referring to is like 30 Million People.

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4 points

Yes, because of the “super” delegates which was like 20 people who can automatically outvote the other hundreds of delegates.

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162 points

Bernie can read the room. These other fuckers very much less so.

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62 points

I’d step back onto the streets with Bernie at the head again. A small part of me still holds that hope from 2016.

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33 points

So many fucking years ago. Ended any passion I had towards politics.

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Yeah… it’s hard. If it wasn’t for my student loans I’d only have about $4000 in leftover reoccurring bills outside of the usual living expenses such as rent and utilities today. Back then I donated more to a campaign than I have donated before or since combined for anything I worked hard. Talked to everyone. Helped found a subreddit for election and voting protection through information. I even went to local watch parties.

I think we are ready for that again. Many of us would stand and fight with Bernie, Jon Stewart, AOC. Most of us who were a part of that understand why people chose to not vote for the status quo. But man, fuck, it’s tiring feeling so disjointed and at best loosely aligned.

We need a community.

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3 points

Never forget Bernie’s legacy… https://youtu.be/ZlZaVtCT5HI

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The others can read the room too; they’re just in an entirely different room.

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3 points

In the took with CEOs?

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2 points

you’re a fool of a took

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15 points

I feel like they can just choose not to because wheres the money in that?!

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15 points

Yes he can. I am happy he still has a voice.

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51 points

Word is, when Bernie first saw the news of the murder, he said, “Fuck yes.”

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Even if he didn’t support the action, it is clearly getting us to talk about what he wants to talk about.

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45 points

Mass movements can do lots of things, but we can’t even get a majority of people to vote…

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We can get a majority of those that do vote to vote for Trump so I am not that hopeful.

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Because people don’t feel represented in the current FPTP voting-system, which to be fair, was designed by wealthy romans to benefit wealthy romans.

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I can’t even get a plurality of people to agree that we should have a national strike.

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As it turns out, you only need like around 5% of the population to start a revolution (if even that amount). Revolutions have been started with even fractions of a percent.

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Voting is how we got here…

Political proces and utterly captured

Otherwise we would have had Bernie 2016.

I am tired of political clowns pretending like politics is the solution, it is key part of the problem.

Did you see how politicians are reacting here.

Besides Bernie that is

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Yes, it can and that’s why we should keep trying.

But it does seem less likely than in 2016.

I’m not desperate (am Canadian) but I don’t blame desperate people.

The ends don’t justify the means but no one is denying that they do get results.

And that the correct means have been tried for decades.

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I feel like we’ve made more progress in our national discussion regarfing healthcare since the assassination than we have in the previous 10 years.

I don’t want to think that violence is the answer, but damn if it ain’t a conversation starter.

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There is no escaping that sometimes violence is the only answer. It took that level of drama for right wingers to acknowledge what they have in common with progressives. It’s really hard for right wing populists to resist supporting murder.

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I’ve also seen more people realize that an armed populace can provide a check on oppression witpopulrequiring a revolutionary uprising and defeating the military.

Having more guns than people means that the more people you piss off, the less safe you are.

If ine nutjob with a gun wants a politician or business leader dead, they can be stopped.

If 100,000 nutjobs want to assassinate you, one of them is gonna slip through.

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There’s also the fact that the day after many insurance companies were suddenly approving procedures they denied the day before.

In all likelihood the assassination saved lives.

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