It annoys me even though I’m still in the U.S.
Edit: For everyone saying CVs and resumes are different, that might be literally the case, but that is not how job applications are using them. I just went to this one:
The date thing is infuriating because the American date format just shouldn’t exist
ISO is best. There’s no debate there. From a data science perspective, YYYY/MM/DD is the only reasonable choice.
But most of the time you’re using dates, you’re only concerned with the month and day. That’s the very reason we don’t use ISO in our daily lives. If you started every mention of a date with the year, people would think you’re a crazy person, or a time traveler, or perhaps a recently-awakened coma patient. There’s just no need to begin with the year. Next Wednesday, 2024 December 18.
If you exclude the year, then the choice is month/day or day/month. Between the two, month/day is far more useful for the same reasons ISO is best. If I need both the month and the day, then I want the month first. The only time I would want the day first is if the month doesn’t matter, and I can omit the month in that case. Giving me the day first and then the month forces me to wait for the month and then remember the day. It’s inefficient transfer of information. If you exclude the year, MM/DD is objectively, if only marginally, better than DD/MM.
But then why would anyone use MM/DD/(YY)YY? Because we’re already using MM/DD.
I’ll see you on the 1st of the 1st.
I see nothing wrong with that. The day number moves most frequently, so that should go first. The month moves second most frequently, so that should go second. Putting the month first makes it odd.
The day number moves most frequently, so that should go first.
Are you German? How do you read 35? Is it 5 and 30? Or 30 and 5? Because the most significant number comes first, the one that moves most cones last.
Do you also say “six, fifty and two hundred” instead of “two hundred and fifty six”?
Ahem - there is a debate… it’s over / vs. -. As is proper - all true debates should be over minor formatting decisions (soft tabs over my fucking dead body).
/ can’t be used in a filename on most common filesystems so that doesn’t enter the conversation the real question is if you include - as a delimiter at all.
20241212 or 2024-12-12? They are fixed width fields so I skip the delimiter when I’m storing data* but tend to use the delimiter when writing for a general audience.
* Y10k problem right here!
The dates are written to match how it’s said. In the US we say our dates as month day year, and before you say “But the 4th of July” my counterpoint is that the 4th of July takes place on July 4th. And Cinco de Mayo takes place on May 5th. And May the Fourth Be With You takes place on May 4th.
MM/DD/YYYY would annoy me wherever it’s from, because it’s wilfully perverse.
It matches the speech order in English. Today is December eleventh, 2024.
Nope. It’s the 12th of December . Just like the 4th of July, or having Christmas “on the 25th”
Disclaimer: am American.
I say the 4th of July because it’s a holiday. July 3rd, 5th, etc are all month/day. I don’t know why just what “sounds right” and it’s what I was taught. It threw me for a loop working with people over seas when I saw 13-10-24. We quickly noticed the confusion and swapped to spelling months out
Maybe where you live, but no. Today is actually the 12th of december. Yanks like to say thats how it is but I have never, or rather rarely, heard them call their independence day July 4th. It’s always 4th of July. So, no. Its not the speech order.
Independence Day is the sole exception in common speech. I suspect this is a older style carried forward into today. Any other date, like today’s, is Month Day (ordinal). Halloween is said October 31st, not the 31st of October. The latter is also much longer.
Cinco de Mayo is of course not in English.
Where did you get this idea from? In British English 11th of December is more common. I’m open to the idea that American English does it differently and that’s fine but to assert that the entire English speaking world does it like that is incorrect and ignorant.
In Canada we usually say Tuesday December 11th, like if someone is giving us an appointment date. It’s colloquial, I guess, a little more succinct.
They’re similar, but used for different purposes. According to UC Davis (University of California), these are the differences
It doesn’t “annoy” me.
I like employers to be open and honest about their various incompetencies. Saves time.
There’s a few other warning signs in that statement too - nice of them sift themselves out so quickly.
It’s the same shit as the kids saying “candy” instead of sweets in the UK, and getting british accents from Peppa Pig in the US.
The date stuff is super stupid though :
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Fuck the US date scheme
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You don’t need fucking day numbers for anything on your CV, except your DOB.
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7th Jan 2007 . You’re welcome, now it doesn’t really matter which order you put the DD/MM
7th Jan 2007 . You’re welcome, now it doesn’t really matter which order you put the DD/MM
But do you write September as Sep, or Sept? I’ve heard that this is also a British/USA thing
