Italy is a car infested country. I would love to know impressions of fellow users from other countries that visit Italy: do you see this?

We rank in the low part for public transport and rails (except high-speed trains). Which is not surprsing

Moreover, automotive industry is sinking in Italy, so there is not even the justification of helping “economy”, for pushing on cars so much.

Finally, there are many more cars than car licenses in Italy. Which, IMHO, is completely absurd

Cross-posted from: https://mastodon.uno/@rivoluzioneurbanamobilita/113632796547131119

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It’d be interesting to see it by weight of those cars. My impression is that Italy has a lot of really small cars, while we here in Sweden have a lot of the US-style Emotional Support Vehicles

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Was just watching a live stream of Piazza Venezia (in Rome) and there was bumper to bumper traffic made up of mostly “regular sized cars”.

But it was such a joy to see Vespas, e-scooters, and bikes filter though that mess like it was nothing!

Traffic is only a car problem.

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Could also be a capital thing, which is why I’m curious. Cycling some of our streets here in Stockholm is definitely like, “oh, you had the idea to fit that thing in here” at all the drivers.

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Latvia is in last place 🥳

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This data, especially the second graph, is surprising and needs explanation. The trend in transport mode in major cities, i.e. where most people live, is clearly away from cars in recent years.

Correction: I misunderstood, this is ownership not modal share. Sorry.

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So car share is increasing in italian cities too, as you can see in the following plot. Reality is that when there is no alternative, people will use cars. This is visibile for example by the facr that Milan is the city with best publc transit, while cities inbthe south are pretty bad

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Very surprising and pretty shameful for Italy.

In Paris, car use has been dropping continuously for decades. In recent years the trend has even accelerated. In Copenhagen: forget transit, well over a third of all trips are by bicycle.

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This is car ownership, not car use. While there is some correlation (if you have a car you’re more likely to use it) I think it reflects purchasing power rather than preferred transportation choice.

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That explains it! My bad.

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Hello lemmy, in Italy there are lots of car enthusiasts who own old cars and mostly don’t drive them. Don’t think that it is only a rich thing. Most of the boomers tend to keep the old cars of their parents and drive them from time to time only to keep them functional. Also lots of hunters don’t go driving in cities with off road vehicles just to show off. They have a small car for city, a small 4x4 for hunting and a small three wheels pick up (l’Ape Piaggio) for hauling cargos. Also fuck euro 7, let the polluting companies pay the price not us! BTW I’m a bike enthusiast in Italy who commutes everyday in bike and I would love to have bike lanes in Italy but in most old steep and narrow street is impossible. We just have to make bike lanes in parks and fuck those pedestrians! Get some wheels! The only problem now is to find small cars: nowadays I tend to see even more emotional pickups like the ford ranger and they are ruining city streets and country roads. Fatevi un ape, tanto la nerchia rimane sempre uguale

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I was just reading an article yesterday in the Australia Financial Review (paywalled) with a few Aussie’s who emigrated to Italy, 2 retirees, one a younger family, and they all commented that the public transport was so much better and so cheap compared to Australia and they didn’t need to own a car.

https://www.afr.com/wealth/personal-finance/so-you-want-to-retire-to-tuscany-20241128-p5ku92

How bad is Australia :(

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