Voters allowed trump to stack it?!
Obama didnât fight for his pick because the party wanted to use it to motivate voters to vote for Hillary, which didnât work.
McTurtle refused to vote to confirm, and legally all that needs to happen is the Senate has an opportunity to vote to confirm. Obama had a year to say:
âI take no vote to mean no objections, Merrick Garland is on the SCâ
Except Garland probably wouldnât be that much different than Trumpâs picks.
Stop blaming the voters for stupid shit the only option we have to vote for keeps doing.
The party refused to pressure Breyer & RBG to step down. Obama refused to play hardball with Garland.
Biden negotiated with himself and cut debt forgiveness to 10K. Then the SC strikes it down , and he throws his hands up and walks away. Iâm old enough to remember when Trumpâs obviously unconstitutional muslim ban got banned and he rewrote it and tried again until it stuck. It didnât fully take until the third try. Then he expanded it twice.
[Edit: I looked it up and he did give it another go, my b]
Yep
Itâs because the same billionaires/corporations donate to both parties.
If a moderate wins, the most theyâll do is âtryâ they were paid too much money to actually succeed, so they do the bare minimum till people stop complaining they didnât do anything.
And the donors know that means a republican will likely win the next election, which is their preference anyways.
The moderate wing of the party only exists to make sure the wealthy never lose and we never really win.
and legally all that needs to happen is the Senate has an opportunity to vote to confirm. Obama had a year to say:
âI take no vote to mean no objections, Merrick Garland is on the SCâ
From what I know (not much) this is a creative take on it. The Senate needs to confirm. If they donât confirm then the judge is not placed. I welcome expert legal scholars to weigh in but afaik what you said is wrong.
Obama could have temporarily placed the judge but that would have only lasted until the end of his term.
Who is âyâallâ? People are blaming anti-debt activists for trump? Another new low for the libs.
Hope this helps: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_you
The for profit media and captured education system has pitted non wealthy Americans against each other irreparably by design.
As they rage over how to address the social issue symptoms of our crony market capitalist economy, the one truly unapproachable topic is remaking our economy to reward honest labor over increasingly abstract (credit default swaps, stock shorts, etc) speculative, insider information laden GAMBLING, or rebuilding a safetynet for our fellow neighbors that struggle, and that necrotic economy we the people have been largely deluded into not wanting to address causes or exacerbates all the problems we do get a vote on to provide the illusion of choice.
Example: abortion is usually an economic decision, and rightly so. If the ownerâs greed hadnât required 2 full time incomes to run most households, and the minimum wage were a living wage, there would be less abortion and birth rates would go up, no threats or bans required. Worker productivity skyrocketed for decades, but that wasnât enough, everyone get into the factories and cubicles and make the masters moooooaaaaaaar!!!
To thunderous applause as the tens of millions of deluded economic victims are told GDP is life, and life is GDP, and if theyâre struggling, itâs the powerless homeless people outside dying faults, lowering property values that stopped them from getting a raise. Bullshit.
The United States isnât a society, it is a death cult of greed/avarice enablers, and itâs easy to see if you recognize the deification of our supposed âfree marketâ they shove down your throats as the self-serving lie that it is.
Freedom without responsibility is a destructive force. The owners feel no responsibility towards the nations they exploit, including ours.
Clearly the reason my life sucks is because of the people in a lower station than me that have and control nothing.
Couldnât possibly be the people in a higher station than me that have and control everything.
Nope. Damn homeless gay Mexican transgender immigrants. Dey derkerder.
Itâs funny (funny in the sense that I have an uncomfortable chance of not fucking surviving the next four years) that so many self-proclaimed leftists have a strategy that boils down to âLet the fascists win and then complain about itâ.
Every âI wonât vote for Kamela because sheâs almost as bad as Trump on Palestineâ, signed our death warrant.
Yes, but they werenât the majority who fucked us.
Itâs just more striking when some of the people fucking us are self-proclaimed leftists who are supposed to be on our side.
How many âleftistsâ do you think exist in the US? Like, is this more or less than 1% of the electorate? 5%? This has the same energy as The Onionâs âstill too early to tell which minority to blame for the electionâ. Maybe the Dems just actually suck ass.
honestly I think Joe Biden withdrawing after the primaries is the biggest nail in the coffin. The primary elections are worth like 10 billion in free media coverage. The second biggest is probably Kamala campaigning with Liz Cheney who has like 15% approval and dropped her poll numbers every time. Distant 3rd is maybe Gaza.
Funny that so many centrists have a strategy that boils down down to, âignore leftists and then complain when they donât vote for us.â
Sorry, here I thought self-proclaimed leftists might have some interest in preventing fascism, but as many leftists on here have repeatedly and joyfully assured me, they donât give a single solitary fuck about the oppressed or the working class if Their Guy⢠isnât the one preventing fascism. Not unlike the Thalmann bootlicking that goes on on some corners about Lemmy about how right he was to hand the country over to Hitler, rather than risk cooperating with the dreaded SHITLIBS.
Red fascists have nothing to distinguish them but a coat of paint.
EDIT: They go on for a half-a-dozen comments or so denying that theyâre saying that leftists didnât turn out because they werenât enthused, and then go right back around and admit that leftists didnât turn out against fascism because they werenât enthused, but thatâs just life and we should deal with it.
Apparently, expecting antifascism out of leftists is above pjwestinâs standards for us.
Cool story, bro. Do you think that the twelve million fewer people who voted for Harris were all Lemmy Marxist? Or maybe they were just people who didnât like her total lack of a working class message, endorsement of the Gaza genocide, or attempts to woo, âmoderate,â conservatives instead of her base.
The Democrats thought that they could ignore leftists and focus on moderates, gambling on the looming fascism being enough to get the left to show up anyway to bail them out. Turns out that was a bad fucking bet, and they created a huge enthusiasm gap that cost them the election. Maybe try blaming the party that spent $1.6 billion on this shit strategy than a handful of protest votes.
Edit: For the record, Pugâs edit is a lie. Pugâs argument is, âYouâre saying progressives let fascism win because they didnât like Harris, and she wouldnât pander to them.â To which I keep replying, âNo, Iâm saying campaigns donât have good turnout with groups they donât campaign for, and Harris chose to campaign for moderates, not progressives.â To which Pug keeps replying, âSo you agree with me!â Also, he calls me an apologist for fascist enablers a few times.
Obviously, weâre not saying the same thing. His framing is an attempt to blame leftist groups for the Harris loss, while mine places the blame squarely on the decisions of the Harris campaign (since getting votes was literally their whole job). Youâre welcome to go through the thread and make up your own minds, but itâs probably not worth your time to read the whole thing. It certainly wasnât worth mine to write it.
You know people can just read the comments themselves right. Dont need your edit biasing things.
Have you considered that the vote between democrats and republicans is really about whether we will abuse foreigners for our wealth or abuse our own people? Which one is the noble one to vote for again? The one that wonât harm you right?
Including a bunch here who have also seemingly deleted months worth of their comments as cover.
When democrats lose: âWe couldâve had a utopia if you had simply voted for us!â
When democrats win: crickets
When democrats lose: âWe couldâve had a utopia if you had simply voted for us!â
âWe could have averted fascismâ is âutopiaâ now?
Funny, but considering that you repeatedly insisted that you didnât give a fuck how many Americans and Palestinians have to die to satisfy your urge for political purity in the run-up to the election, unsurprising.
Like how biden winning in 2020 averted fascism? Also, donât make things up about me, I did not insist any such thing.
Like how biden winning in 2020 averted fascism?
Yes, if you will remember, we were not under a fascist regime in 2020-2024. I understand thatâs a hard thing for bougie middle-class kids to understand, but some of us actually have to deal with the government in our day-to-day lives.
Also, donât make things up about me, I did not insist any such thing.
You do know âavertedâ doesnât mean âavoided happening forever until the sun engulfs the Earthâ right?
I always took crickets coming out of the political arena to be a positive. I want my politicians to shut the fuck up and govern, thank you very much.
When democrats win: crickets âWe didnât win enough so Iâm afraid our hands are tied.â
Funny thing is they never win enough. Even when they win a majority, magically enough members switch sides to cancel any possibility of progress. Itâs like a rigged carnival game, but you think that if we simply adjusted our aim we could certainly get the ball in the hole. Itâs crafted to look like you have a chance when you really donât.
Because indebted students run the Democratic Party, gotcha
