I’ve said this for years as others online have claimed OF is so safe. You don’t know the full story. It is not necessarily a more ethical business model than traditional porn
It’s definitely more ethical in that it allows the creators to get more of the money.
But that doesn’t mean there aren’t issues. Clearly it doesn’t fix the whole issue of people under 18 sometimes making their way into the industry. It’s not a silver bullet that fixes an entire (sometimes problematic) industry.
I don’t know who was trying to tell you that OF solves everything about the porn industry, there would be no further issues, and that we’d live happily ever after, but that was obviously never going to be the case.
Also the article isn’t even so much about underaged users trying to get on the platform to post pictures of themselves or trying to gain access to porn, OF seems to be fairly good at keeping them out, it’s adults posting content involving minors and that’s a lot harder problem to prevent without literally going through every upload manually.
Yeah.
Diaz set up an account and had a woman verify it as hers. That woman, whom police didn’t identify, later quit OnlyFans. But her account remained live and accessible to Diaz. He filled it with videos of the underage girl
That’s really not easy to catch, no matter what platform you are. Some people will do complicated shit to evade the eyes of the law for their illicit activities.
It’s almost like creating a platform where the intent is for users to post content without any kind of curation or manual review is itself a flawed idea. I understand how tempting the whole thing is, to set up a platform that allows you to be a passive middleman and take a cut of all activity on the platform.
Should be a law that if a platform is making money from something, it is also responsible for that content. Curation shouldn’t be enforced by law, but the legality of the content should be, whether it be illegal on its own like in this case or fraud. Ads included.
OF take 30% I think. What does an average scene make on OF? How does that compare to the pay rate for old school porn?
I think 30% is a fairly common number. That’s also the exact share Google, Apple take if you’re a programmer and sell Apps on their platform. And probably also what you’re facing when selling online courses or other things. I’d be surprised if a platform that also offers some infrastructure, takes less than say 20 or 30%.
I think receiving 70% of the prices that you yourself set and deem acceptable is likely better than ?% of whatever PornHub or XHamster say they made from your video predominantly through ad revenue.
At the very least, it gives creators a great amount more control. In terms of setting prices, in terms of creating content they want to make as opposed to what a production company says, in terms of how you want to advertise, in terms of whether you want to lock your content behind a paid tier or not, etc.
And 30% is also pretty standard. Google, Apple, Valve, etc all charge 30%. Shit, on twitch it’s 50% IIRC. I’m not saying it’s perfect and couldn’t be cheaper, but it’s the usual market rate.
The main thing I’m getting from the article is that adults who try to profit from abusing children on OnlyFans get arrested.
It seems to me that OnlyFans takes several steps that make it easier for police and prosecutors to do their job, some of which are detailed in the article. What additional steps do you think they should take?
Why are kids allowed on OnlyFans?
They aren’t allowed, nor is it legal. That’s kinda the point of the article
My gf had to submit pictures of her ID like 4 times with all her personal information to be able to post . And I had to go through the same process to be able to be included in the videos . So I don’t really understand how moniors can post in there .
The article explains it in one case, an adult woman verified the account and then they posted a minor’s videos on it instead.
But the article also said that they only know about 30 cases in 5 years in the US. Which doesn’t sound like a huge amount to me personally (still too many obviously)
It’s similar to 10 year olds being allowed on Facebook, only there’s money and sexual activity involved.
This reminds me of Russia after the Soviet Union fell, in which nine and ten year olds were offering sexual services for lunch money, because they literally had no other means to eat.
In the States today, those jobs that were once a place for teens to get work experience and spending money are now occupied by people paying rent. Competition for fast food cashiers and grocery baggers is fierce.
And yeah, teens who are very pretty find they control their own means of production when it comes to telecommunications sex, so it’s natural they too would want to bypass regulations to get some of that sweet, sweet lucre that defines your power and privilege in this society.
She’s got a ticket to ride, and she don’t care.
At this point of social decomposition, I suspect that rather than being predators, it is the children themselves who do it.
This is the sentence in the entire large article that person seems to be laser focused on:
In other cases, minors got past OnlyFans vetting to purvey their own sexually explicit material, police records show.
It later has interview excerpts with one girl who sold her own material across two accounts. It’s a small part of the entire article though.
hundreds of sexually explicit videos and images of minors – from toddlers to teens – appeared on the website
Some teens maybe. But toddlers? Have you read the article?
Really? There’s like 10 examples here of children being abused and your response is to talk about how kids are bad?
Yeah I mean I’m not saying there are no predators out there but at this point of a scum society I think the majority of children on OF are not exactly victims of a predator.
What you’re experiencing is generational bias and forming an opinion without actual facts. Be better.
Of the 30 cases reviewed by Reuters, more than half resulted in an arrest and at least three in criminal convictions.
I suspect that rather than being predators, it is the children themselves who do it.
How tech-literate are those toddlers?