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Imagine if Biden with his newfound immunity decomissions the entire Supreme Court and raids it with military force just for the sake of tragic irony

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Everyone seems to be missing the “in an official capacity” clause of the ruling. That is intended to force each of these cases to the supreme court, allowing them to rule what is and isn’t official capacity. Meaning, they can simply rule that Biden didn’t act in an official capacity and is not immune. The ruling is even more sinister than it seems on the surface.

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He can make it official. He can make it as official as it gets. He can literally publicly sign this, in his office, with the press. Just because the constitution doesn’t explicitly say he can do it doesn’t mean it’s unofficial. The constitution barely mentions what authorities the president does and doesn’t have in the first place.

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Its going to be hard to rule against the president after you been killed by the president.

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Obviously this will never happen, but good luck ruling that Biden did not act “in an official capacity” when he ordered their murder, after it has actually been enacted. I guess their replacements could do it but that won’t resuscitate their predecessors.

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The decision specifically states any action involving “core responsibilities” is an official action and grants immunity. One of the core responsibilities of the president is commanding the armed forces. So by their decision any order given to the armed forces comes with immunity by default.

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Immunity != authority.

Biden doesn’t have additional powers because of the ruling. Just can’t be prosecuted for crimes.

Immunity only benefits criminal Presidents like Trump.

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The problem with that thinking is the President is the Commander-in-Chief. He can tell the military to do anything, and anything he tells them to do is protected, because that power is EXPLICITLY written out in the Constitution, and thus is an official act.

Additionally, he could just hire literal hitmen and pardon them of any crimes. Official act. Fucking brownshirts are gonna be back.

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The hiring hitmen would probably not be an official act though. That’s why you use the military and pardon them of any charges.

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This should scare the shit out of everyone.

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Biden can do this now.

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Except when the terms of what an official act is not defined, the Supreme Court gets to decide, after the fact.

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I’ve been thinking about this a bit, I’m not sure it’s been considered and I may be going out on a random tangent…

Isn’t this whole ‘immunity’ decision just another power grab, or rather further cementing of their power, by SCOTUS? Think about it. They’re essentially the arbiter of ‘right’ and ‘wrong’ now, as there’s no further avenue of appeal save for amending the U.S. Constitution.

Put aside the vagueness of ‘official’ vs. ‘unofficial’ acts for a moment.

  • Trump did something definitely illegal, and Trump argues was ‘official’, like his classified records case. Immune.

  • Biden did something questionably legal yet unofficial, such as forgetfully retaining classified documents after his tenure as VP (which he immediately returned). Supreme Court decides ‘not immune’, and some idiot decides to prosecute.

Trump might end up as a king, but the conservative majority of SCOTUS are the kingmakers and protectors.

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Eh. Not if Biden just says “no. Fuck you. That was an official act.” And then just categorically ignore the court. Which is precisely what Trump would do if presented with a mirrored version of the situation.

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So he can limit the scope of what the next president can do simply by using the power he’s been given.

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Nope because he can’t interpret nor create laws. Just break them. The next president is free to do as they wish.

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Hard to decide it after the fact if the fact is your death.

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He’s not going to be around much longer either way.

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Yet somehow Biden is powerless to stop him. 🤔

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Are you hoping that Biden now sets a precedent by using his newfound king powers to assassinate his opponent? I want Trump to lose in a fair election and go to prison for a very long time. Biden using this “the president/king can do whatever he wants” would lead to an immediate civil war

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The time for a president to not act like a king was before a corrupt court awarded the powers of a king to a president. The only way to turn it back now is for a non-corrupt king to break the corrupt court and then divest himself of powers before a corrupt king ascends to the throne.

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That seems logical, but can we try wishful thinking first?

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What?! No! This is like a riddle. You assassinate the Supreme court first, THEN pack the court. Then have the new Supreme Court strip the presidency of these new powers.

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Yes but my cabbage is still on the wrong side of the river

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He has enough troops to hit Congress, the Senate, the Supreme Court, and anyone else he wants at the same time.

The irony it would be if he called the Official act, “The Purge of Fascism”

No one would try to bring about an impeachment vote, as they know they would be dead or disappeared before it took place.

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Because history is full of examples of people willingly giving up absolute authority.

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Weird how if Biden uses any of the power he has to stop Trump from becoming Fuhrer then it will cause a civil war, but when Trump actually uses that power to become Fuhrer he will face no obstacles.

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It will still cause a civil war. Also, that was a wild edit from “you’ll fucking wish Biden assassinated Trump”

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I want Trump to lose in a fair election and go to prison for a very long time.

I mean, 2020 happened, he lost in a fair election. He did do crimes that should have landed him jail.

Now what? You’re saying it’s gonna happen this time?

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As if that’s not gonna happen when Trump uses said powers? Indecisiveness will doom America. Act! The Heritage foundation, Trump, and the Republicans do. They ask for forgiveness, maybe, but not permission.

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Indecisiveness = not assassinating the opponent?

America is doomed. Now both sides are calling for their chosen king to execute the other king. The experiment is over, hyper capitalism disguised as theology won. I want to vote for my chosen president in this election. This thread is telling me I should support my king executing the other king. Even if he gives up that power right after said execution, the president has made a precedent that the “checks and balances” are broken.

My prediction is that if an execution / forceful power grab is to happen, China will immediately invade the Phillipines and Taiwan, seeing the instability of the US, possibly Japan right after, since our new king will be too busy with the civil war or dismantling the government.

After that NATO and the EU will remove the US from any seat we have during said civil war, as we are no longer a democratic state.

The US arms companies will move to supplying the civil war in addition to just pumping Israel full of guns, maybe Russia too since it’s profitable and what even is regulation at this point.

By the time the US does stabilize, we’re a corporatocracy, as the only things left with real buying power are our tech companies and arms manufacturers, which at this point have their own mercenary security to defend against potential profit loss or have moved to other nations (Apple’s risk management division absolutely has these papers and plans drawn up seeing the political climate)

Canada will absolutely close its borders, and probably will be a hotbed of attempted immigration, ironically their right wing leaning government fighting the effects of our right wing government.

But yeah, we should yell at our king to assassinate the other potential king, instead of organizing, donating, campaigning and voting

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Hell no, this “When they go low, we go high, bullshit!” is why Roe Vs. Wade was overturned and if we continue that nonsense it will be why Gay Marriage is overturned.

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And if donnie wins?

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Curiouser and curiouser 🤨

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Immunity only benefits criminals. Biden is not a criminal so doesn’t get any benefit from the ruling.

The ruling only benefits criminal Presidents like Trump.

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Criminals have to be convicted.

If you do crime and don’t get convicted, you’re innocent. That’s how the judicial system works and the Court just confirmed Nixon was right: when the president does it it’s not a crime.

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What powers would you have him use to stop him?

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The powers just granted to him by the Supreme Court.

Any “official act” done by the President is now constitutional. He couldn’t, like, shoot Trump at the next debate with a gun he smuggled on stage. What he could do is, as President from the Oval Office, order Trump’s motorcade to be droned.

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You clearly don’t understand how this works. And I’m not going to waste the time to explain it to you. It’s way too late in the game for that shit.

You’re entirely wrong about how that works. Just know that.

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Does anyone else just not bother reading articles when they see it’s from The Daily Beast? I just don’t have the energy to deal with their paywall.

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There wasn’t one this time

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I feel like their paywall has gotten more strict recently. I used to almost never get them (edit: on my pc with an adblocker. I did get them on mobile but now I’m seeing them on my pc too)

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Agreed. Hell, I remember before they even had one.

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