Imagine if this was done around the world. And then imagine how empty the Internet would be.

You don’t need to ban kids from the Internet. You need to ban pedophiles from it.

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The damage to children’s lives done by social media is catastrophic.

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And “banning children”, wait, I mean forcing every adult to verify who they say they are online accomplishes what?

Oh, that’s right, a massive tracking database for any bad actor to use.

If your children get into shit, it’s your fault for not raising them right. I got into some shit as a kid, and had friends that got into more/less shit.

I watched those fuckups raise their kids, and they learned from their own childhood experience and chose to guide their children how to use the internet properly. To understand how it works, the risks, etc.

You can’t bubble wrap the world. The idiots (myself included) will always find a way around such safetyism, and in the process you’ll be harming everyone else.

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Are we not already subject to massive tracking databases anyway?

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People used to say the same thing about video games. And movies. And even books.

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“Guns don’t kill people, social media does!”

-America Under Project 2025

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I strongly disagree.

Social media is terrible for mental health especially for the youth. Phones and tablets help in some areas like motor control development but also hurt other places like attention deficiencies and critical thinking, and very rarely does it lead to a kid learning how technology works (that’s usually from the computer nerds, aka kids who want a computer, doesn’t happen even close to the same rate as smart phones.

Smart phones make people dumb. That’s my opinion. But the above are scientifically backed.

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Then parents need to stop using such things as babysitters.

And parents also need to get up in arms about lazy “educators” using tech to make their job easier (instead of making learning more effective, which is the bullshit argument that’s always used).

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Parenting is harder than ever, so I don’t blame parents.

Back in the day you would have the mother home all the time, even more recently there was still a strong community in most places and big families meant lots of babysitters.

Nowadays it’s fend for yourself for everybody almost everywhere, so raising a kid properly is almost impossible unless you are rich or have a lot of free time.

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Most of the technical problems with learning/teaching are actually caused by sticking to outdated 19th century concepts in schools such as having the (by definition average) local teacher explain things instead of someone who actually knows how to explain the subject matter well and pretending that kids need to memorize everything in a modern world instead of incorporating the ability to look up things into the learning process.

Most of the actual major problems with education are caused by funding structures and deliberate sabotage by parts of society who benefit from an uneducated population without critical thinking and research skills.

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100% agree. These things get talked up as benefits when they are mostly treated as revenue streams by the seller and distractions by the buyer. Kids and adults. We all need to be way more critical of the tech we use.

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You need to raise kids better instead of delegating that job to the internet.

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We can’t rely on the assholes running these site to ban pedophiles. They’d endorse a pedophile president if they thought it would give them less taxes/regulations.

This is a prudent move, we’ve only seen the very beginnings if the sorts of indoctrination and manipulation our kids might be subjected to.

Never thought I’d sound this way, but i can no longer ignore reality.

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Some mastodon instance has it covered already. https://eigenmagic.net/@daedalus/113519360107067092

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Okay, that is fucking awesome. LOL.

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6 points

That is both hilarious and a brilliant solution.

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3 points

“being angry about inaction on climate change” hahaha

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Not a bad choice.

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Now ban everyone else (except Lemmy of course).

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Now everyone gets to hand over their ids to the tech companies.

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We should make a bet how long it will take before the ID databases get leaked.

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It would take too long.

Making the bet that is, it would be leaked before you are done setting up the betting system.

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Australia requires mobile phone providers to verify IDs before providing cell phone service. As a result, in September 2022, Optus leaked the records of 10 million Australians including passport and drivers license details.

So negative 2 years, 2 months.

But this is just asking for more.

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Tech company’s probably already have enough info to know a person age without requiring an id. They could even use ai for something actually useful

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Identification would need to be handled by a 3rd party to even remotely work. Then they pass on the “yes they’re over 16” tick to the social media platform, with no actual identity details.

Edit: and likewise, Identity company have no details about the social media account name or anything. Just a token transfer of sorts.

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I guess Australia.gov can be the site in the middle handing out the tokens

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Identification would need to be handled by a 3rd party to even remotely work. Then they pass on the “yes they’re over 16” tick to the social media platform, with no actual identity details.

The legislatiion specifically allows SM sites to handle ID.

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