It is not my intention to ignite an EMACS/vim war; I will say that I find it baffling that Lower Decks is ending while Strange New Worlds is being continued. I like Strange New Worlds, despite disagreeing with some of the artistic licenses being taken. But if I had to choose between the two shows, itโ€™d be no contest. Not only as a viewer do I prefer LD, but it has to be the cheaper show to produce. The fact that next season is the last (both by design, it only being contracted for 5 years; and announcement) is sad and incomprehensible in the same way the cancelation of Firefly was - except LD is popular and successful, whereas Firefly merely had a fanatical (๐Ÿ–๏ธ) fan base.

I donโ€™t understand it. Yes, you want to end on a high note. Maybe the writers are running out of plot ideas. Perhaps, given an initial life span of 5 years, the actors have all made other arrangements and arenโ€™t available. But I just canโ€™t believe the One Big Plot Arc thatโ€™s been building would necessitate ending the series by its resolution.

LD is a strong show. Itโ€™s lighthearted. Itโ€™s a breath of fresh air after the more decidedly darker, ethically challenging, and emotionally straining runs of TNG, Voyager, DS9. And Strange New Worldsโ€ฆ the Gorn are basically Xenomorphs from the Alien franchise.Who, despite being the existential threat of the show, somehow get entirely forgotten about by the time in TOS.

But I digress. Iโ€™m going to miss Lower Decks, badly. How can this happen? And why?

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I barely just got to watch the first season on Amazon Video as a Prime member. Someday Iโ€™m hoping the rest of the seasons will be included in Prime, because Iโ€™m not subscribing to Paramount.

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My objection is that this will cap LD at five seasons. Itโ€™s seven for a trek series dammit.

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Eh 5 seasons these days is like two seasons of traditional Star Trek.

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Thereโ€™s less filler on the shorter seasons. Maybe 1.6 seasons?

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i love both shows but i donโ€™t think theyโ€™re really comparable. LD is a very very very good spinoff but it canโ€™t be the tentpole Trek series, whereas SNW was more or less engineered to be that for this generation

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I agree. Lower Decks is a great show in itโ€™s own rights and I know lots of people who like it without any previous experience in Star Trek, but it is very much a love letter to the series.

SNW is an outstanding show for first timers and a younger crowd. In a lot of ways, I kind of wish I could experience Trek with SNW as my first show.

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whereas Firefly merely had a fanatical (๐Ÿ–๏ธ) fan base

Whereas if Fox hadnโ€™t royally screwed up Fireflyโ€™s production and release, it would easily have been โ€œpopular and successfulโ€. Feels like apples and oranges to me.

However, I do agree that Lower Decks is a great show and cancellation makes little sense to me as well. But Strange New Worlds also is a great show, including the artistic license (which Iโ€™ll be the one to say โ€œSubspace Rhapsodyโ€ was amazing, I donโ€™t care what anyone says) and Iโ€™m happy it is continuing.

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I just thought Subspace Rhapsody was a bit boring, with too much โ€œLook, itโ€™s this character, but singing!โ€ and not enough actual Star Trek plot. When we only get 10 episodes a season, the plot of each one is very important, imo.

Other than that, Iโ€™ve mostly loved Strange New Worlds. The Lower Decks crossover especially. I love grapplers.

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I havenโ€™t seen strange new worlds, but thereโ€™s an entire episode in voyager dedicated to the doctor singing. Not my favorite episode, but I didnโ€™t hate it either.

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I liked that one, because it was an intense personal story for the Doctor. The SNW episode was just shallow

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๐ŸŽถ โ€œHail the Klingons, Uhura!โ€ ๐ŸŽถ

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Hail!

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Iโ€™m going to miss LD, but Iโ€™d rather a show go out strong than with a whimper.

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I agree. I just fell like there were still places they could have gone with it. Apparently, even with promotions. Getting a half pip, or even a full one, doesnโ€™t necessarily automatically get you out of lower decksโ€ฆ and how fast do promotions come? Once every year or two - no faster, certainly.

And if we can have shows about the bridge crew, and shows about lower decks, we could certainly have shows about the in-between strata. An (original) Enterprise class had a crew of CA 400 people. Most of this didnโ€™t spend any time on the bridge; bridge crew was, what, 3 dozen people, max? The Ceritos is a California class; Iโ€™ve seen estimates of a crew compliment of 160. If we assume a max of 40 bridge crew (on rotation, with alternates), that leaves 120 people in other categories. Plenty of room for new assignments, duties, experiences; hell, except for re-assignments to other ships, they could drag the show out indefinitely. The bridge crew characters would take the most attrition.

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