This happened in Toronto on October 24th

6 points

It would be crazy sci-fi villian if Musk had mobile access to everyone’s Tesla and he is just killing off customers he doesn’t like by doing shit like refusing to unlock the doors.

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Explain to me how the engineers aren’t guilty of manslaughter?

Look, I lasted one semester at engineering school, washed all the way out almost immediately. I still had to write a 10-page case study on an engineering failure, and the one I chose was the McDonnell-Douglas DC-10 cargo door failures. They teach this shit in failing community colleges in purple states. The buck stops with the PE that signed the plans. Drag his ass into criminal court. The person who allowed this design to go to production does not need to be free.

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The people who design the Tesla cars are not engineers. They’re a bunch of tech geeks who think they’re engineers.

I mean, ask yourself this why is. Every single automobile that exists today with the exception of the Tesla can handle rain and car washes with absolutely no issues and yet Teslas have to have a special button to close off certain parts of the car so that the air intake doesn’t get too wet otherwise the car ends up stinking horribly of mildew.

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The people who design the Tesla cars are not engineers. They’re a bunch of tech geeks who think they’re engineers.

There is still someone’s signature.

If needed, liquidate company.

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They won’t because this would require a trial where rich people wouldn’t benefit, which is a waste of government resources, which goes against the Department of Government Efficiency’s goals. More efficient to throw these poor souls’ families under the bus.

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7 points

Where’s the Safety FMEA! Show me the FMEA!

Risk 3452.7: feature, door. Function, opens during fire, failure mode: won’t open during fire, trapping people inside. Cause: the darn things are electronic! So if the battery fails in a big ass fire with people inside, those fuckers are gonna cook real good! Engineering controls in place to prevent the failure mode: 200,000 units delivered in time! As in it took time to deliver the units. Risk rank: 😉 it’s Frank! 😄 My name’s Frank! Not rank!

Well I’m glad we took time to mitigate these risks.

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Meanwhile, actual autonomous vehicle companies actually perform FMEDA.

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10 points

Always have an emergency hammer in your car to break a window

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I have a Civic with a manual door handle, but after reading your comment … I think I’m going to get one to leave in the car just in case.

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Should your car ever wind up submerged in water a hammer could come in handy. Make sure it’s a “break glass” type hammer, which has a point. Thick tempered glass is surprisingly strong.

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7 points

The spring-loaded kind are a lot easier to use in a cramped car and by people with less upper body strength. However, those won’t work on newer cars with dual-pane or laminated glass

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7 points

I’ve seen people say that emergency window hammers don’t work with Tesla windows as they’re laminated in current models.

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8 points

Would that work in a car that purports to have bulletproof windows?

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Only the tesla truck claims to be bullet proof. This happened in a model y and the 5th person in the car narrowly survived because a bystander smashed the window.

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1 point

Hmm yeah, didn’t think of that

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2 points

Something pointed would be way better, doesn’t even have to be big

Many are built into USB adapters for the old cigarette lighter style of plug, so if you’ve got a car with one of those plugs you can slot it in and if you ever need it you pop it out, put the plug to the window and slam, shatters right away, don’t need that much force or space at all

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2 points

This effectively is what an emergency hammer is - a “hammer” but with a narrow point specifically to be able to break the glass from the inside.

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Yeah but normal people are going to read “emergency hammer” and think you mean it like a carpenters hammer you have for emergencies

The product has a stupid name, I blame engineers (as usual for bad naming of things, sorry guys)

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Further investigation shows that three of the four had recently posted mean things about Elon Musk on Xitter. A representative from the company issued the following statement. “It is unfortunate that the fourth passenger, who was seemingly innocent of blasphemy, chose to associate with the guilty parties. Sometimes collateral damage has to occur in our attempt to cleanse the population.”

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51 points

The Elon Musk-owned automaker has a troubling history of owners getting locked in their cars without power. Some of these cases may be down to user error, since most Teslas come with manual release levers.

Of course, let’s blame the users 🙄

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Now, now, remember correlation is not causation. Maybe it’s not the unintuitive design; maybe a disproportionate number of idiots buy Teslas?

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In the case of the model Y referenced, this release is under a mat. You wouldn’t see it in normal operation.

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10 points

In case of emergency, lift the floor mat and input the 16 digit release code.

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The 16 digit code can be found in the “My Data” section on x.com, assuming your account has been linked to your vehicle.

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45 points

most Teslas come with manual release levers.

MOST?

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Yea the cheapest ones skipped the manual release for the back doors. Gotta deliver maximum value to shareholders!

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I don’t want to be a dick but not using the mechanism to open them is user error.

But it does also sound like they aren’t very well placed in some models. I feel like the manual release being the same as any car would make sense. As a fucking standard door handle.

I assume the no power locking is an anti theft thing. But if you’re in the car already just provide a handle.

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62 points

If the door can’t be opened easily in a panicked life or death situation, it’s a design flaw and needs to be recalled and fixed.

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Yeah like I said they should be a standard door handle.

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I will be a dick: this is one of those imbeciles teck-bro takes, always comming with excuses for big tech "but actualy… "

If you design a door handle and people cannot open it: your design is shit. Point.

This was stupid when apple did it with the ‘you’re holding the phone wrong, idiot’, it is criminal when it is done on a security feature.

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That’s literally what I said

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It is because people don’t get a full walk through of how to unlatch it later on…they might on delivery day but at that point people are excited about a new car and not paying attention. And then because they never use it, they forget it exists

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Opening a Rear Door with No Power

You can open a rear door manually (if equipped) in the unlikely situation in which Model Y has no power:

  • Remove the mat from the bottom of the rear door pocket.
  • Press the red tab to remove the access door.
  • Pull the mechanical release cable forward.

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Not all Model Y vehicles are equipped with a manual release for the rear doors.

Opening the front doors seems easy enough in the user manual, but opening the back doors requires you to remove a hidden panel then pull a cable, but not all versions of the car even have that hidden panel. Assuming the one in this article did, the car owner would need to give a little safety briefing to every passenger if you want to expect them to know how to open the door. And I’m really not sure what you’re expected to do if you have a kid in a carseat in the back.

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The backseat of a Model Y is like the world’s worst escape room

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