39 points

People who are upset about high prices and stagnating income do have a point. People who think that prices will go down because they were lower last time Trump was president fail to understand cause and effect at a fundamental level and have me thinking some undemocratic thoughts.

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I think these people are gonna get a reality check when the tariffs kick in, the dollar continues rapid devaluing, etc.

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20 points

Deporting half the farm workers will surely reduce the cost of groceries.

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11 points

A lot of them won’t. They’ll keep blaming whichever minority they think of, or simply be mad at higher prices without actually ever analyzing where those higher prices came from. We saw it in 08, we saw it after COVID, and we’ll see it now.

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1 point

They got $1200 last time, surely it will happen again

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42 points

I guess they really wanted a recession so they are going to get one.

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10 points

Yup, a lot of donvict’s fans were actively cheering one on during Biden’s term so that they could get power.

Ironically, they just might get a really, really bad one. But during donvict’s tenure.

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27 points

Unpopular opinion: blaming the voters is counterproductive. It’s important to understand why they voted (or abstained) the way they did.

Yes, some percentage of voters are indeed racist, sexist, homophobic, etc. But hypothetically, another percentage are people who were unhappy because of economic reasons and felt they were presented with two bad options:

  • an unreliable candidate who acknowledged they were unhappy
  • an unknown candidate who said they were wrong and should just be happy

Is this hypothesis correct? I don’t know, but just assuming the voters are ignorant, or just saying that leopards will eat their faces, isn’t productive.

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Shouldn’t be an unpopular opinion

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But the ongoing theme is that “voters voted on the economy” and if you do just the smallest, tiniest bit of research of on one of those magical rectangles we all have in our pocket it’s blindingly obvious that Trump is probably going to screw it all up.

It’s like everyone turned on Fox News for half an hour and went “yup, this is our guy.”

We can blame crappy education, but my barely functional public school at least taught us to do our own research at least to some degree.

I’m not saying the campaign was perfect, but we have to assert at least some effort on the part of the voters — how do you vote for someone only having seen the news or a manufactured social media feed, c’mon.

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I remember my girlfriend, just staring at the TV when that female rapper was literally twerking at one of Kamala’s democrat conventions… and was like “what the fuck is this?” I mean, I get it that celebrities can and do help candidates, but the messages being sent by the Democrats were just crazy… like, it’s all a party and not that serious. And for the record, my lady is Mexican and very liberal…

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That has to be a joke. How can I find it? Sounds very unreal

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No, most people decided neither option was good enough. Trump destroyed the economy, Biden finished it off. Harris lies to voters and said they were better off than they were under Trump, which isn’t true for any group of voters.

So if Harris doesn’t even see a problem, she’s not going to help. Trump is a liar but at least sees there’s a problem. At worst nothing changes regardless of who gets in office using this reality. At best maybe Trump accidentally does something good.

Harris, by deciding to lie about the Biden economy and ignore the economic reality the majority of Americans are experiencing, effectively eliminated herself as a candidate. She explicitly and implicitly stated she doesn’t care about and will not improve economic conditions.

Harris ran the same campaign as Clinton, plus genocide. She failed worse than Clinton. It was predictable, guaranteed really.

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4 points

Well the economic reality will be improving in the next 6-12 months, right after Trump takes power.

This is what always happens: some Republican becomes president, trashes the economy then when Democrats take power they’re on cleanup duty. But of course the results take longer than four years, so another idiot is elected into office and the pattern starts all over again. Republicans take credit for their predecessor’s economy and people shit all over Democrats.

This pattern has been happening for as long as I can remember (I’m 35); it baffles me that no one else sees it.

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0 points

With fascists in control, are we sure productiveness is a concern? GL with fascism when shits unproductive as fuck.

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32 points

The economy is good but all the money is going to the rich. “Quick, let’s elect the rich guy who campaigned with the other really rich guy to help us get our fair share.”

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So that’s a way of saying the economy is bad that starts off with a lie.

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5 points

The economy is working as it was rigged to do and by most measures, it’s good, but it doesn’t work for most people. Trump is not going to help that because it’s people like him (and also directly him) who rigged it to work like that.

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2 points

Yep. Dumb as a box of rocks.

But no, no one should blame voters that “think” like this…oh no.

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22 points

This does a good job of pointing out how the economic models that show things are going well are outdated and inaccurate.

All the folks who claimed that statistics should be enough to convince people the economy is good should read it to see how wrong they are.

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7 points

Whatever happened to the Misery Index? We need to maybe start up an American Happiness Index because international things (like the OECD better life index) are not trusted by the magabrainz and so we’ll have to stamp something highly performative of their identity politics on it…

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2 points

The economy being strong was only ever a commentary on the foundation. The economy is stable and people are still struggling, which is what Biden has said.

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12 points

Even that’s a terrible argument. If the economy is stable and people are still struggling then the economy isn’t working for normal people, and normal people will want it to change.

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And the economy doesn’t just change overnight. Trump inherited a strong economy and over his term lined us up for a serious recession. Biden inherited that economy and mitigated that damage. It’s like Trump was driving us straight toward a cliff, Biden swerved to avoid plummeting to our death, and now people are mad that we’ve spun out on the shoulder.

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Terrible argument for what?

Avoiding a recession was a good thing. But that doesn’t mean that there aren’t still problems. Sorry if you’d be happier with a job market crash or a housing market crash. But that would be even worse for people.

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