Honestly call or email the Democratic party offices and voice that you one hundred percent agree with Sanders.

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Honestly call or email the Democratic party

Do it because it will be cathartic, but don’t do it expecting them to listen. Progressives need a new tack if we’re actually going to save humanity from ourselves. (Spoiler, we probably won’t)

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. (Spoiler, we probably won’t)

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Pelosi’s attitude is a big reason why

She believes voters work for her and need to do what she wants or she scolds them, afterwards they’ll listen.

Bernie believes the best way to get elected is to show voters you’ll help them.

One method is very effective, it’s just foreign governments, billionaires, and corporations pay a lot of money to make sure candidates like that never make it out of a primary.

If an elected official put the average voter first, where does that leave the wealthy?

Not first? Completely unacceptable, Thurston get my mink we’re leaving.

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Bernie is one of the few remaining politicians in our country who are in politics as a service vs a career. I wouldn’t be surprised if after every time he gets elected he consoles himself, “this’ll be the last time you need to run, this is the cycle where we’ll fix American politics and you can go back to your dream of opening an ice cream shop.”

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One method is very effective, it’s just foreign governments, billionaires, and corporations pay a lot of money to make sure candidates like that never make it out of a primary.

Slight disagreement. They pay a lot of money so candidates like that don’t make it into a primary.

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All sides are using Bernie to bash Democrats, and I don’t like it.

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Dems need some bashing and Bernie is the official spokesman of disaffected Dem voters so he is perfect for the job.

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All sides are using Bernie to bash Democrats, and I don’t like it.

On what basis would you not like this?

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Big bussiness is scared that if given the chance bernie would win and they cant risk that.

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Let’s not wrap it in some mysterious “big businesses” it is really oligarchs vs us, they take more and more of wealth making all of us poorer and then use media (which they control) to say it is because of minorities our lives are so shitty.

I highly recommend On Freedom book by Timothy Snyder which talks how we are being manipulated to go against our best interest.

I think everyone should read it and be aware as things won’t improve unless we start fighting back.

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Let’s not obfuscate with “oligarchs” either.

They’re the bourgeoisie. It’s the same struggle now as it was 100 years ago.

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I’m not upset Bernie was criticized - no one should be above a good-faith critique and ideas should be judged on merit as opposed to who says them. The reason I disagree with Pelosi is that I think Sanders made some damn good points, and if the Dems don’t listen they are going to fail again.

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Pelosi is a piece of shit whose career should have ended in jail for insider trading decades ago.

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Joe Biden absolutely would not have won wtf are you talking about 💀

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New information shows his internal polling at the time showed he’d lose to Trump’s 407 electoral votes… He still refused to step down for over a month. You are incorrect that he would have won by all metrics that can be known.

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He would have lost even harder.

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As a Democrat, even I’m sick of Pelosi’s shit.

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Based on his remarks, I won’t be shocked if he’s working on organizing a whole new political party that’s going to eventually supplant the Democratic Party altogether.

And if that’s what he’s doing, and he pulls it off, it’ll be a good thing, and I’ll probably register a political affiliation other than “no party/unaffiliated” for the first time in about 14 years.

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I won’t be shocked if he’s working on organizing a whole new political party that’s going to eventually supplant the Democratic Party altogether.

I don’t know how such a thing could ever happen, but I never thought where we are today could happen, so what do I know?

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Yep, same.

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This was my thought as well.

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I think the biggest issue was actually with messaging. Democrats were still pretty much relying on MSM which almost no young people watch.

I think that beyond what Sanders says what left needs are young people, true populists (as opposed to pseudopopulists ones like MAGA has) with progressive messages.

https://runforsomething.net/

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No, I would say an over reliance on mainstream media certainly hurts them, but their messaging still sucks. Just to go with examples Bernie provided here, how do you think the Democrats message that the economy is doing just great resonates with the 60% of Americans living paycheck to paycheck, the 25% of elderly people who need to eke out a living on $15,000 a year or less, or the 20 million Americans working for less than $15/hour? It’s a slap in the face to all of them. Messaging is not just getting the message out, but sending the right messages, and the Democrats whiffed hard on that front. They need to do some serious self-reflection and make some drastic changes to both the structure of the party and its platform if they want to do anything more than win the odd election for a single term when the GOP oversteps itself. Pelosi and the old ghouls that support her should all be kicked to the curb.

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Like seriously, who do they think they’re fooling? This rhetoric of “the economy is great” doesn’t work on people who are struggling more and more every year through no fault of their own. Nobody but the super rich give a shit about quarterly profits and your definition of recession. The working class has been in “recession” for decades.

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Honestly I think this is huge. I’m nowhere as old as these dinosaurs but even I’m surprised that people get “news” and info from podcasts and such. Mainly because any old jackass could prattle on about whatever without a single lick of knowledge but…

That appears to be the case though.

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any old jackass could prattle on about whatever without a single lick of knowledge

Welcome to rural talk radio.

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I’m getting down voted to fuck elsewhere for pointing this out.

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Sorry to hear it. Sometimes the dogpile is real.

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Copium and sour grapes help wash it down. I was highly let down but not the least bit surprised by the outcome. I am trying to get people accept that the Dems need reform if we’re going to continue with a two party system.

Unfortunately, the Pelosis and Schumers are going to continue to shove milquetoast and false hope down our throat while continuing to move to the right to try and grab the republican demographic.

Meanwhile, the rest of us just want food, education, housing, and a way to retire before we’re 90.

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These Conservative Democrats are so uninspiring that we’d allow Nazi level fascists to take over.

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If this is the political reality, then it’s the political reality that must be adapted to.

Centrists would rather lose.

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Conservative democrats are republicans. The dems made their tent so big that it has lost all meaning. I dont recall dem politicians ever going to the right of repubilcans in the past. It would have seemed impossible. Biden/Harris normalized it.

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The reason I disagree with Pelosi is that I think Sanders made some damn good points, and if the Dems don’t listen they are going to fail again.

They would rather fail than listen.

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They would rather fail than listen sacrifice corporate donations

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