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Yeah? Are more than 71 million people protesting? If so, where the fuck were you on Tuesday? And if not, well, I understand you don’t like the election result but this isn’t going to achieve anything.

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Being persnickety with people putting their lives out there in protest is such a DNC move. Bet you bitched about the college gaza protests. If your old enough you would of been bitching about civil rights and Vietnam war protests too.

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“No but see I withheld my vote for Kamala because I don’t feel she earned it”

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No but see I withheld my vote for genocidal candidates.

FTFY. get your facts straight. Kamala’s internal polling knew this. she choose this put your ire in the proper location: on harris and the dnc for blowing a fucking election against this twit to shill harder for corporations.

she had two jobs to win: convince people she took the economic hardships of american workers serious (she didn’t) and commit to following americas laws (she didn’t while simultaneously running as a law and order candidate).

Instead she treated arabs like absolute garbage and had pro business economic policies. oooo 25k for first time home owners. bitch people can’t afford food and rent and mortgage rates are at a two decade high. you think 25k is going to do shit?

she was such an arrogant asshole to arabs and the working class we fucking warned everyone for months. but instead of listening idiots spouted ‘lesser evil’ nonsense. All I know is im grabbing popcorn for the next four years and focusing my efforts entirely locally from now on. fuck the DNC and national democrats.

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“Hate never made America great” ? What the fuck are you even talking about? Your hate of commies launched you to the moon and made you a nuclear superpower. Your hate of the religious freedom in Europe caused you to invade another continent and cause genocide upon its inhabitants. Your hate of black people sparked a civil war that almost destroyed you as a country.

Hate is what defines you. As a reminder of the hate you perpetuate, your majority chose hate of women and minorities instead of throwing a known criminal in jail. Trump is the US. Hate is the US.

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Our hate of fascism led us to put Hitler in a corner so dark he took his own life because the commies we hated so much would’ve done so much worse to him like Mussolini. I think you have misrepresented our hatred of commies, since this is just one part of our history; we work with the commies whenever it’s convenient and then when it’s peaceful we make a pissing contest for the sake of flexing on one another like petty stepbrothers. Hate is a big part of our history, yes, but it’s ignorant to think of this as the whole face of America.

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And before anyone says “America joined WWII late,” I want to say that’s a lie by omission most of the time. It’s true that America put troops on the ground only after Pearl Harbor…but the US government was already sending supplies to the allies before that; for the entire duration of the war, the US had an anti-Nazi government. Hypocritically so due to the US policies against black people, but some people phrase it in a way that makes it sound like they want us to believe the US was close to joining the Axis before Pearl Harbor (also bringing up the MSG rally, which…you could find a comparable amount of Nazis in any Western country at the time.) Anti-interventionism was the absolute norm in the US at the time.

Now, it is incorrect that US History class casts Americans as the primary heroes of WWII.

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instead of throwing a known criminal in jail.

All they had to do is throw in jail is correct. But no, they kept him around and used him as the “orange boogyman” so they can campaign without campaign promises.

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As an Italian who lived through three different Berlusconi’s governments… there is no way back. Identity politics is too yummy for lobbies and the other people who fund politicians.

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What should someone even do to respond to a viewpoint like this?

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I mean, some support of reform in your congress and senate would be a good answer. Allowance from people outside the two anointed parties to come forward and propose good ideas even if they don’t affiliate themselves with the oligarchs running things in the republican and democratic parties - fix that First Past The Post bullshit, you all know it’s bad for you. Reform of how you count votes, gerrymandering is literally destroying your elections. Reform of how many representatives there are for each state - you’re telling me even though California has 17 million more people than Florida, they have the same number of senators? Or maybe it’d be nice if your cops wouldn’t be above the law and always getting away with murdering minorities, that would help. Or maybe reform of your education and healthcare systems, which feed all your money in the pockets of the same fucks who then force you into labor for the “luxury” of taking an ambulance to the hospital when you’re sick, or earning a higher education. Reform of your for-profit prison system that jails minorities to further increase your class divide. Or reform of your diplomatic relations with countries known for genocide. Reform of so many different things… But I think most of all, it would really have sent a message if instead of making him president, you’d have just jailed the convicted felon that has ties to one of your biggest enemies. Cause otherwise you’re just painting the picture that corruption has overtaken you.

And hey, it’s not you as a person that is responsible for any of this. But this is how it looks like from the outside. Your majority has decided you’re gonna be corrupt fucks for the next few years and that you as a nation are gonna exchange the lives of women for a red hat and a fake tan. If that’s what the majority decides, that’s the impression your country will leave. I’m truly sorry about it for the many actually reasonable people that are left. Perhaps now is a good time to consider emigration.

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Wonderful timing! Did you ever consider doing this a week or two ago?

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If the people had rallied far more before the election, it could have convinced enough ignorant fence sitters. Now we have people reacting to damage already done when the next chance to fix it is two years away.

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If the people had rallied far more before the election, it could have convinced enough ignorant fence sitters.

The exact same thing happened in 2016. Huge rallies a few days after Clinton lost. If those same street rallies had come a few days BEFORE the election, she probably would have won.

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Of course, there is the distinct possibility that the rallies were happening before the election. The billionaire owned media just didn’t choose to show it until now.

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It would have been worse. Fox News would paint them as anarchists and encourage violence. Nothing would change on the right

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Yeah, it would have just been feeding their infinitely expandable persecution fetish. The same goes for the legal cases against Trump. It was the right thing to do, but it just meant that Trump supporters dug in their heels even more.

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To be fair, I imagine most of these people voted.

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He stole the election.

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I’m pretty excited to see the left wing numerologists emerge from the woodwork. Don’t forget to buy those supplements.

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So what exactly is philosophically unsound about what I said?

We can philosophically find the inconsistencies in numerology to debunk it as a science or predictive method. So what am I saying that is illogical?

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One piece of this is pretty easily debunked:

“Your votes are rigged. We can win New Mexico.”

If that were true, why didn’t they? 🤔

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election_in_New_Mexico

Not only did Trump lose, he wasn’t even close.

Fewer people turned up for Harris, likely due to the lower emphasis on vote by mail this year compared to 2020, but he still lost.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election_in_New_Mexico

As for the whole “Starlink hacked the machines!” that’s as crazy a claim as the Hugo Chavez claims from 2020.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/11/11/left-wing-conspiracy-theorists-elon-musk-satellites/

"There is no evidence to support the claims spreading on social media. US voting machines are typically disconnected from the internet in order to prevent interference.

Last week Jen Easterly, director of the US Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, said there was “no evidence of any malicious activity that had a material impact on the security or integrity of our election infrastructure”.

Allegations that there are millions of “missing” votes have been spread by both Democrats unhappy about Trump’s victory and Republicans who claimed the theories vindicate their concerns about the 2020 result.

The discrepancy in the number of votes cast is mostly down to slow vote counting in California, which as of Monday had only processed around 74pc of ballots despite being called for Kamala Harris days ago."

I’m not going through the rest of the claims as it’s obviously just so much tinfoil hattery.

Youtube is not a source, anyone can go on Youtube and say anything.

Ditto Facebook, Twitter, reddit, etc. etc.

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3 sources of Wikipedia, Wikipedia, Telegraph. Lol.

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He probably didn’t. He was polling very well. Very well. Better than his last two elections for a long time. People pretended he couldn’t win and I admittedly didn’t think they’d do that since that’s exactly what happened in 2016.

Simply assuming the election was stolen will be a mistake because that mindset will help Republicans win their next election. The voters wanted an irreparably changed supreme court and Trump functionally immune from prosecution and that’s what the voters got.

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Um, or not realizing the danger we are literally in right now will be a mistake.

Think of what Trump has literally said:

  • He wants a purge night, and a purge for “woke” military members (this is literally a military take over by Russia)
  • He wants to take away freedom of speech for leftists
  • He wants to end birthright citizenship
  • You will never vote again after this election

There won’t be a next election. He is a Russian asset meant to take all of our money and kill us. The voters didn’t decide anything, Russia did. To kill us.

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There are reasons to want Congress to stop him apart from “stealing” the election (which I don’t think happened). Particularly the 14th amendment which states insurrectionists cannot hold office.

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I reformatted my post for clarity if that helps. I have been trying to gather reputable sources and more info as story unfolds and I think I let it get too messy.

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I’m shocked at all the election denialism I’m seeing. This is extremely dangerous to our democracy.

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It’s a shame people are falling for that trap. Especially after all the shit we all had to hear about it for the past 4 years.

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It’s the classic, “It’s good, when we do it.” b.s.

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I want a way to see how my vote counted.

I don’t trust the fact that 3rd party traitor supporters have had their hands on our voting machines.

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MN but was able to verify mine was counted on a local gov website.

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Counted for whom?

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