Summary
Donald Trump’s re-election has fueled a surge in misogynistic, homophobic, and racist rhetoric among young men, reportedly emboldened by the president-elect’s history of inflammatory remarks about women.
In schools, boys have been caught using phrases like “your body, my choice” against female peers, prompting districts like Minnesota’s Hopkins Public Schools to issue warnings to parents about harassment.
The impact extends beyond schools, with activists on Texas State University’s campus displaying signs asserting that “women are property.”
This hostile climate has left many women feeling unsafe as a new far-right administration takes power.
the america the majority of americans want. sickening
I am legit debating about quitting my job because my supervisor (in NJ) said that he didn’t vote because he didn’t like either candidates, he felt his Christian values were not embodied by either of the candidates. I just wanted to be like “bitch, how about at least vote against someone who spits at those values”. Up until now I respected him, I thought he was knowledgeable at work and just assumed that he would be knowledgeable about outside world too.
More like 22% when you look at the numbers. 40% of the electorate could give two shits who runs the country.
And people need to stop giving that 40% a free ride. They also wanted this. Fuck them.
We have the same issue in Ontario where our conservative leader Doug Ford won a majority with like 19% of Ontarians actually voting for him. This means for the majority of Ontarians they were comfortable sitting at home fingering their grandma. So fuck them yes they did want this.
A slim majority of voters. 68 million to 73 million last I checked. Not even a third of the population.
Bruh, I hate this timeline.
I feel like I accidentally triggered some portal and walked into a TV show / movie.
Nothing feels real anymore.
It was December 21st 2012. The Mayans were right. A timeline ended and were falling into some clown mirror black hole ever since or something.
Tbh, for me, I’m realizing it’s triggering a sort of sea-change in terms of how I, as a citizen, want to interact with American society.
Laws, ethics, human dignity and empathy clearly aren’t important to people here. Money and power are. This is fully incongruent with my personal beliefs in a variety of fundamental ways. I’ve tried to aim my career at areas that are going to help better society - that’s a big part of why I work at an oncology-focused biotech now. But like… I’m faced with the realization that this country just doesn’t share my values, and doesn’t actually care that I willingly take markedly less compensation than, say, working at Meta, and it’s primarily because I want to make the world a better place.
I admit it’s starting to feel like an abusive relationship. I don’t think the world is going to become a better place in my lifetime. It’s going to get a lot worse in a lot of ways. My initial reaction was to begin taking steps to just fully fuck off from this country, and find someplace else with a society that hasn’t fully eaten itself. Try to keep my sanity and ethics in one piece by finding a new society to call home that’s not America.
But I ALSO have begun to realize in the last couple days that there’s another darker path I could take that denys the society I’ve honestly come to resent pretty strongly the my true capabilities and abusive consumption of my efforts: Malicious compliance. I could just fully jettison my ethical guidelines and engineering principles and simply min/max the absolute fuck out of comp and just retire early. Work for Meta or OpenAI or some health insurance company or whatever the fuck is the absolute most lucrative job I can find and just fully shoot for leadership metrics, not really fucking caring about the toxicity of the management class, the morale or well being of my team, the impact my work has on society, the quality, reliability, and integrity of the code I ship, or any of that ivory tower crap I’ve previously held as crucial elements to my profession. Stop trying to move the needle in the right direction. All gas, no brakes. If this country is determined to not give a fuck, why should I? Why shouldn’t I try to get to a place in my career where I can just retire, or do whatever I want without worrying too much about the personal consequences, because I can just fuck off at my own discretion due to money?
And the second, darker option has the added benefit that I wouldn’t have to essentially abandon my family here, who are definitely not considering moving away as seriously as I am. My parents are both not in the best of health; maybe I should try to at least spend some more time closer to them before I just fuckin leave - or at least, as long as I can stand it here before the “fuck off and leave” route is truly the only viable option.
America is dead to me. As a European, I already had a pretty negative view of the states, I especially hate the worse parts of American culture that seep in into our lives, since sniffing US ass is what we do best apparently. But now, what makes America any better than let’s say Russia? The fact that people have running water at home? America doesn’t even have a human rights committee! This moment for ever changes how I see Americans, a sort of no way back. It’s a nation of bloodthirsty traitors! Blessings and good luck to anybody who still has a hint of normalcy in them. May you one day rebirth your country as a force for good once again.
Please do not make us a monolith. I am not my country, I was just born here. That kind of thinking leads to radicalism and violence. I can perfectly understand caution with “unknowns” from a group you have reason to be concerned about. Honestly from a personal safety standpoint we do this all the time. But to unilaterally decide we are all one thing and write us off (or worse) is false and dangerous.
I don’t know where you are in Europe but I love the continent and have visited many countries there. I do my best to be respectful when I visit and look up local cultures and norms so I don’t stand out and be “that American.” I’m not ashamed of being an American tourist, but I don’t want to adhere to the worst of our stereotypes. If other countries’ people decide we are inherently dangerous, being annoying may be the least of my worries should I have the fortune of making another trip there.
I’m feeling the same mostly. I don’t make as much money as you, but I’m ok because I don’t have kids and I’m in a low COL area. Which means I travel much of the time and leave my wife undefended. She is open to getting a pistol and learning. I’m getting a rifle. We can’t leave because her mom is elderly and will not leave. Hell we’ve just got her convinced to move 20 miles to live with us.
Once her mom lives out her life we will have options. We can see how bad it plays out. I want to move to Uruguay or Costa Rica badly.
I originally wanted to do what you’ve done, but eventually fell on the idea that the country is essentially beyond saving. Should this hold true, the best option then is to join a grassroots movement and begin building an alternative economy from the ground up as a ready replacement for the collapse of the current system. Join a socialist organization, work for a land trust, start building cooperatives and alternative food systems, etc.
When I have gone through this thought process lately, I’ve concluded that even if I plan my life in the most cold robotic way possible, my mental health and general well-being are at their best when I am compassionate towards those around me.
So first you must ask yourself what your true goal is. Do you want to “win” some shallow materialistic version of life? Or do you want to help others, or just be happy regardless of what it takes? Then that helps inform later decisions.
My automatic assumption has always been that saving everything, retiring early, and being a recluse was my path to a happy existence. It’s just what I felt I wanted to do. I bet I’m not alone there.
But then I had the great luck to have COVID come around and fuck up my career and finances in a few different ways. Now I’m stable again at work and my finances are a disaster, but I’ve waded through so much shit mentally that even though big retirement account balances feel great, that’s not what creates real joy, contentment, and even optimism.
…In my brain anyway. It’s like we all have slightly different owners manuals but we don’t get a copy of it and have to reverse-engineer it. In my case I had some things I cared about a lot get torn away, but I still had my family, and I realized that without that stuff that got taken away I was still the same person and was just fine. That definitely flipped a switch or two. Well, that and a grueling couple years dialing in medications, lol. Anything that helps!
I do understand what you’re saying. But at the same time, the foundation of the premise you’re presenting begs the question “do I still consider this society worth saving”? And quite frankly, I can no longer give an unambiguous “yes” to that question. THAT is what I mean when I say the result of this election has made my sense of misanthropy spin wildly out of control.
Well what will happen is that those women will be put in prison and the poor innocent gangrapers will be set free because you can’t ruin someone’s life just because he raped something.
Well, as per the 2nd amendment, buy a gun, make sure they don’t live . If you’re going to jail anyway…
We need the Hell’s Grannies to come back
Yeah, the “I do not want to vote for the lesser evil” crowd was literally saying the misogyny out loud for all to see.
Remember that 53% of white women voted for this.
They voted for them and all women to be considered property.
Article filled with examples of men expressing hatred and misogyny towards women
“Ayup, no one hates women more than other women!”
You still can’t deny that women do hate women here.
53 percent of women hate women with that additional 10 percent of young women that voted to hate women.
I mean I’m willing to give women as a whole a quarter as a condolence prize since they played themselves.
College-educated white women backed Harris. All college-educated groups did. Maybe Democrats should work on making college more affordable, and accessible to women with small children. Frankly we should anyway. We should also start helping girls that get pregnant in high school finish with their diploma so college will be an option in their future. Especially since more of them are going to be forced to carry the pregnancy to term.
Maybe Democrats should work on making college more affordable
Why do you think the wingers reacted so much to having loan forgiveness? Anything that educates more people is something they fear. Having people not being saddled with crippling debts after school only sends a message to others that maybe education is a path for them. The wingers don’t want an educated citizenry.
No, the gop has weaponized anti-intelectualism. The reds won’t vote for a candidate that wants to make college affordable.
I see you don’t like “right wing” any more than I do, because I think they justify their actions by thinking “we must be right, we’re the right wing.” So I call them the Wrong Wing.
Or sometimes the Human-Rights-Destroying Wing.
No, democrats need to adjust their messages to people without a college education.
One of the things that makes Trump so popular is that he panders to people without much education.
as i just said in another comment, it scares me to see this shit AGAIN.
this narrative is not making women any safer!
Yeah, the truth certainly doesn’t make women safer.
You really should talk to other white women about that.
which truth is that, that no one hates women like other women?
look at the current climate, i see a lot of woman-hating from all sides, including supposed allies on the left looking for a scapegoat. the oversimplified victim-blaming of dumping our president-elect at the feet of women (again) demonstrates very little understanding of gendered power dynamics and very little effort to build coalition.
to this i would add the threads blaming racial and ethnic minorities, the poor, and the poorly educated.
do you want less suffering in the world, or are you no better than the right in looking for someone to blame, and someone whose suffering you can enjoy because, “they asked for it, they voted for it, they deserve it?”
Inaccurate. 53% of white women who voted voted for this. A lot sat out and let it happen.
We thought we could bargain with and persuade “conservatives”. They voted for this, they are okay with women dying in hospitals because the doctors can’t legally intervene. The supposed “Pro Life” party. I wasn’t okay with abortion early in my male, hetero, American, white, life but now I see. They are only pro-fetus. Once a child is born, Republicans don’t care if they starve, if they have access to clean water, if they can afford food, if they have shelter, if they are raped, etc… Multiply that by about 100x if they don’t have white skin.
“Conservatives” are almost as bad as MAGAts, and just as unreachable with reason, logic, and empathy. I don’t have a solution, I’m just pissed off. And I’m far from the most-harmed people will be the result of this greed, racism, apathy, and hate. Sorry…
