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Funny - it’s the same for roughly 50% of Americans too - which is horrifying.

👁️ 👁️

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51 points

Even as someone who clashes with Lemmy.world users every post, I highly doubt Kamala doesn’t have the vast majority of American support over Trump. It’s that people don’t vote

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67 points

That doesn’t change anything, tbh.

Apparently these people are at least complacent enough to let Trump become president. And that is horrifying.

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6 points

Yeah, that’s a decision

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38 points

It’s that people don’t vote

Yes but also no: it’s mostly that many people either CAN’T vote or can but only with extreme exercise of patience and stamina.

Get rid of all the ridiculous voter suppression obstacles and you’ll see a dramatic uptick in voting and a corresponding shift towards Dems winning almost every election, making the GOP unviable within a decade.

Neither major party wants that, though, since the Dem leadership counts on running on fear of Republicans so that they won’t have to go further left than the owner donors are comfortable with.

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If the Dems won every election on center left policies, the only option left to the Rs would be to do another party switch and go further left. That’s how we get an actual left wing party.

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33 points

Easy to say when you live somewhere that voting is easy.

You honestly think Jim Crow restrictions on voting ended? The Supreme Court itself struck down the Voting Rights Act, and now you can have a single polling station for a county.

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6 points

I really hate reading about how difficult it is to vote in some places. I live in a suburb that is far enough from the city that it borders some rural areas. The area is very white, and something like 3/4 red. And it is SO easy for me to vote. Every year I don’t even look into voting early or by mail because I can just roll into my polling location and fill out a ballot in minutes. And that polling location only has to accommodate my local neighborhood, like hundreds of people at most.

It’s wild how much work goes into disenfranchising people in more blue areas. How can so many people work towards that without having the “are we the baddies” moment? (Rhetorical question, I do have eyes and ears and am well aware of the shitty state of our culture)

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30 points

Plus the system is rigged to count rural (and thus usually more conservative) votes more, so sane people have to turn out in greater numbers to keep sociopaths out of the white house

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9 points

Then the people whose votes don’t matter electorally decide that the popular vote isn’t relevant, so they don’t bother.

Hey guys! If Kamala wins the popular vote by >70% but loses the election, there will be riots. There could be a revolution. And she has the numbers to do that if you guys could just vote.

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16 points

People that don’t bother to vote are as bad as Trump supporters. The true foundation of every autocratic regime is not fear, it’s not their real supporters, it’s people that don’t care what happens as long as it’s not happening to them (yet).

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6 points

It’s always that people don’t vote. Support without votes is empty wind.

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I don’t know. There’s a surprising amount of stupid people here. They live in near poverty and are easily manipulated into hating others as the reason for their miserable lives. It’s really that simple in my opinion. Yes there are lots of people who don’t vote, but I’m not sure that it would change the current split if they all did vote. We need more and better education.

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101 points

Watching America edging fascism is my pastime in between watching my own country edging fascism.

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90 points

Americans are watching this too and wondering what the fuck is wrong with our fellow Americans. This should not even be close.

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36 points

America is a fascist nation dripping in right wing propaganda.

If we elect Trump a second time, the only people who can express shock are the ones who have never seen a neighbor wave a Confederate flag, brandish a Blue Lives Punisher logo, have FOX News blasting away in the living room, or demand you laugh at their joke full of ethnic slurs.

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-7 points

Trump would make us fascist. We are not currently so.

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14 points

Ok maybe you’re not a fascist country, but you’ve been dipping your toes in the fascism pool for decades, just waiting for the water to be warm enough.

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2 points

Aged like milk

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14 points

I’m really hoping that it isn’t close and that the polls were lying “just to make it interesting”

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1 point

I have some bad news

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4 points

But have you thought that Kamala is a Woman?

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2 points

Maybe don’t turn important political processes into a sports match. Try a little logos with your ethos.

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6 points

Yeah you’re right it’s us, the ones posting to lemmy, doing that. You nailed it mate

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-4 points

Tacitly, yes.

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-25 points

Yeah, I really can’t believe Harris is even a viable option. This should be a Trump landslide. 🫡

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You can’t believe Harris was a viable option because you’re a chud. I can’t believe Harris was a viable option because she’s genocidal imperialism. We are not the same

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-8 points

Agreed.

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-10 points

Disgusting how overrun Lemmy is with blue. Must be like 98% woke in here. Don’t be woke. Wake up, people!! WAKE UP!!!

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As an American:

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

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15 points

I second this emotion

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64 points

I’m really hoping Harris wins, and we can make politics boring again. I know that if Trump wins, we’ll hear about all the insanity he will put in place for the next four years.

Sure, if he loses, Trump will cry foul, but that doesn’t have the same legs as it would if he wins.

I just want Trump to be some washed out TV “celebrity” and politics to be as entertaining as it always is: not very.

I’m not American and all I hear about right now is American politics. Y’all need to figure your shit out.

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58 points

Trump is not the problem. Trump is the symptom. The problem is a somewhat powerful minority faction in the US actively pushing to dismantle our democracy. Project 2025 wasn’t written by Trump and didn’t write itself.

Harris’ win is step 1. We then need to push to shore up our democracy and prevent a more cunning trump replacement.

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11 points

Plus he’s proven that having a cult of personality works, and caused a notable shift in the US Republican party.

For all we know, that might be a permanent change, rather than a temporary one.

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7 points

I’m just hoping that there’s no one with his “charisma.” Thankfully everyone else scummy enough to be in the GOP is a wet rag in comparison to him so far. He may be a piece of shit, but a con man “confidence man” he most definitely is.

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9 points

Watch the movie “Bad Faith”. It lays it all out.

Tl;Dr: It’s pretty much entirely the fault of Evangelicals.

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18 points

If Trump wins, the world will become a way less hospitable place even faster. This is literally the fight for the last resources, and the 1% wants it all. Trump is a Billionaire enabler… nothing else.

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sorry to say but if trump is junior partner in a billionaire oligarchy firm then harris is their employee as head of hr who pretends to be our friend but is actually their to keep us in check. she was chose as vp by the lobbyists and since then she has only followed their orders.

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3 points

At least she won’t strip away any right. Freedom my arse.

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16 points

If Trump loses, that dissolves the Trump cult and the next Trump that comes along will just be compared to Trump

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17 points

I wouldn’t count on that. These are cultists who are ready to deify Trump and start sending people to the camps. I don’t think losing an election will change the fundamental cult dynamic, or the hatred and anger that has been organized within the cult. We are stuck with this bullshit probably for the rest of our lives, one way or the other.

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5 points

next four years

Optimist.

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-31 points

You are out of your mind, my friend and so far removed from reality. What insanity are you even referring to? America needs rehabilitation, and we’re not getting that with Harris, who has presented herself as utterly clueless in just about all her media interactions. It’s absolutely bonkers how the seemingly majority of people here on Lemmy can’t see this. Yikes! Glad to see the blue wall coming down as I type this.

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19 points

Found the cult member.

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-18 points

Yes. You were looking in the mirror.

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11 points

How will Trump, the only other viable candidate, do a better job?

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