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Robert F. Kennedy Jr. announced that a Trump administration would prioritize removing fluoride from public water systems, a position at odds with major health organizations like the CDC, the American Dental Association, and the American Academy of Pediatrics, all of which endorse water fluoridation as safe and beneficial for dental health.

Despite Kennedy’s controversial stance on health and environmental issues, which includes previously debunked claims linking vaccines to autism, Trump has praised his passion, stating that Kennedy would have significant freedom to influence health policy if Trump were elected.

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Roe v Wade: “This should be decided by the states!”

Fluoride in water: “This should be decided by the federal government!”

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They’re proposing to ban vaccines too, and they’re not mentioning particular vaccines, just “vaccines”. So no healthcare for trans people or pregnant women, and no vaccines. It’s only a matter of time before someone convinces them antibiotics are the devil’s work.

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I mean…

At this point let’s just tell them we forbid them from drinking arsenic because, even though it massively increases testosterone production, all liberal science says most humans aren’t strong enough to handle it.

Fucking let moron nature take its course.

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Except they’ll take a lot of us with them. We need herd immunity, clean air and water, safe roads. They’re going to fuck us all with their idiocy.

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They’d probably start putting it in the water.

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someone convinces them antibiotics are the devil’s work.

Antibiotics are proof of evolution, since the various microorganisms create resistances to vaccines.

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Nothing says pro life like returning to 18th century childhood mortality rates 😎

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Antibiotics shouldn’t be used as easily as people think, though. Because, ahem, antibiotic resistance is a thing.

It’s a responsible position to only use antibiotics when you really need it. Not when you have cold. EDIT: just in case, by cold I mean cold, not covid

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That’s the kind of responsible and sensible advice the Republicans would never give. It requires too much nuance.

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Anti-what? Ohhh you mean Satan Pills.

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Breaking: Trump vows to repeal Ohm’s Law: “States should handle resistance at the local level.”

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That’s because they don’t actually have principles.

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Not putting fluoride in the water isn’t the same as prohibiting it. If you want to drink it or not simply becomes optional, rather than mandatory. Give people a choice to make with their healthcare provider, otherwise you’re forcing medicine down peoples throat.

https://pharmacy.amazon.com/Sodium-Fluoride-Chewable-Tablet/dp/B084BTB8TY?

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Violating your principals for some undetectable flouride in the water is a small price to pay for an entire area of people to receive better dental prospects.

Flip this round. You still have a choice, buy bottled water.

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Oh stfu

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Nobody is forcing you to drink tap water.

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Fluoride isn’t medicine.

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Don’t we have real problems to solve? Why are Republicans always making up new shit?

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More like rehashing old shit. Vaccines are pretty settled science as well.

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Because Democrats tend to agree with reality, so if republicans want to oppose them they must insist that reality isn’t true.

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Distraction 101. If we’re too busy fighting about stuff like this, we won’t come after them for the stuff they absolutely do not want to address. More often than not, the other side doesn’t really want to do the hard work either, so it’s easy to just fight with them about the meaningless shit and get credit for being the reasonable ones. Meanwhile the homeless camps get larger, the health care gets more expensive, the one income family with a pension for retirement becomes a two income family juggling multiple part time jobs with no benefits, higher education becomes something that traps you in a lifetime of loan debt, and we spend billions to elect people who will address none of it.

Pick up a fiddle and enjoy the view of Rome.

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Sometimes I hope I’ll see a starship Enterprise, but it’s looking more like Bell riots and Eugenics wars for the rest of my lifetime.

Vote blue and punch a nazi whenever you can, be the change you want to see.

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Mental health.

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People like you are the reason I want a forum that makes you read the articles before you can comment on them.

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Great way to send a lot of business to dentists.

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A Pynchon-level conspiracy. I suspect we’ll be seeing some more dentist-on-trampoline accidents.

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That paper specifically concludes that despite all that, there is no reason to even look into whether fluoridation in drinking water might be a problem because there has clearly been no corollary deleterious effect. So, knowing what it would look like if it was a problem, was enough to know that it isn’t even close enough to warrant checking how close it is. The highest reported extremes of exposure already didn’t cause issue, so there is certainly no cause for concern at normal levels.

Basically, normal levels are so far below potential risky levels, that they aren’t even concerned of accidental overexposure due to mistakes or accidents. They concluded they had literally zero concern…

So linking that paper isn’t really supporting your opinion.

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Those concerns are for unrealistically high doses though. The last sentence of the abstract you linked:

In conclusion, based on the totality of currently available scientific evidence, the present review does not support the presumption that fluoride should be assessed as a human developmental neurotoxicant at the current exposure levels in Europe.

Calling concerns about the safety of fluoridated water “founded” is a bit of a stretch.

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The issue is not whether fluoride is good or bad. Conservatives vilify medical experts as “woke” and it that as a reason to dismiss their advice.

I too can cherry pick an article to support my position. The number of cavities in children born in Calgary, Canada within the decade after they removed fluoride from their water was higher than nearby Edmonton who kept fluoride.

We can argue about who has more links to support their argument; or we can argue about whether politicians should govern based on the recommendations of experts, or trust that “they know best”.

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Removed for clearly misrepresenting health research findings.

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where are brain worms when you need them to finish the job

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starved to death.

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It’s like a joke unto itself. A brain worm couldn’t survive in RFK’s brain.

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Poisoned by his thoughts

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How about making sure 100% of US residents have access to clean, safe tap water first? Eliminate lead and forever chemicals. I don’t feel strongly about fluoride, I do feel strongly you should be able to drink water from your kitchen sink without having to worry.

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Wow are you a commie? Tap water should only contain flammable gas from nearby fracking plants! Yeehaw

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That’s how you know what FreedomTM tastes like!

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It tastes like burning.

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There actually is a huge push to replace ALL lead service lines in the next few years. Also the EPA has extra funding for treatment of “emerging contaminants” which includes PFAS. Republicans are trying (and succeding) to reduce this funding.

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See that would require 100% of Americans to be rich enough for these chucklefucks to care about us.

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