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The continuing American embargo on Cuba after the Cold War has always been toddler tantrum level of pettiness.

I thought Obama had finally closed that chapter, but I was wrong.

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Obama had started. But Trump reversed.

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This was so fucked up. I know presidents shouldn’t be able to set things in stone, but it shouldn’t be so easy for a petty president to just undo the all last ones things just cause they’re a thin skinned bitch

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Soooo wtf are these Cubans thinking? These embargoes hurt the people in Cuba. So Cubans in Florida are basically Republican women? As in, they’d gladly hurt those like them as long as they can feel superior?

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Absolutely. See also: increasingly conservative Mexicans in US border states who support building a wall.

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The ones that made it to Florida were the former ownership class that had the choice of staying to face trial for their crimes against the Cuban people, or get on the boat. Occasionally a “politically persecuted” person or group would “escape” in later years. Usually these people either helped the CIA with their destabilization attempts or were just ordinary criminals that fled prosecution like many Americans go to Russia to do. The US was more than happy to accept both groups without any vetting as that helped their narrative that Castro was a tyrant making up charges.

Floridian Cubans, Gusanos, hate communism for the same reason anyone in the parasite class hates communism; they’re mad the playing field was leveled and they had to answer for their crimes against humanity.

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The Cuban refugees were mostly supporters of the Batista regime, owners of sugar plantations, etc.

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Well, the world certainly understands that the US holds a grudge. But Castro is dead. Feels a bit silly at this point

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From everything I’ve read over time - it’s not even the US that holds a grudge, it’s been popular on both sides of politics to end the embargo.

But neither will since it means losing the massive voting bloc of Cuban-Americans in Florida, Florida itself often being a decider of US elections. They don’t want the embargo to end and anyone who supports ending it losses their vote.

Their reasons seem to vary, from the worst being wealthy land owners who had their lands taken by Castro only wanting relations normalised if they get their land back to the more common escapees who don’t want to normalise relations with the ‘Castro government’ ever, that Cuba needs to ditch the regime first.

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Florida hasn’t been a swing state in years, and it’s not like Cuban Americans are ever going to vote Democrat regardless.

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If they’re never going to vote Democrat then you want to eliminate reasons for them to go vote for Republicans. A Democrat running on eliminating the embargo would energize more of them to vote Republican rather than sit it out.

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There is no reason to further antagonize Cuban expats for zero political gain elsewhere in the US. No other major voting block in the US gives a shit about Cuba.

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Why don’t they want it to end?

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Silly and grudge are very interesting terms to describe an illegal embargo that brings millions in the brink of starvation and poverty.

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53 points

Always the same map

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looks like impunity

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This is the only map I can find where Israel disagrees with the US.

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Why is Israel voting against itself

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Ah, the cracker index chart

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Less so that they disagree and more so that it would damage their propaganda potential too much

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6 points

Ironic.

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3 points

Why is Ukraine against?

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The proposal was submitted by the Russian Federation shortly after they attacked Ukraine, back when Russia was still claiming that “de-nazifying” Ukraine was the purpose of the invasion.

https://press.un.org/en/2022/gashc4365.doc.htm

Several delegates took to the floor to express concerns over Moscow’s attempt to exploit the pretext of combating neo-Nazism to justify its brutal war against Ukraine, with Ukraine’s delegate asserting that the draft has nothing in common with the genuine fight against Nazism and neo-Nazism. Echoing his concerns, the United Kingdom’s delegate stressed that the resolution is part of Moscow’s attempt to justify its aggression against Ukraine by furthering lies and distorting history.

The United States’ delegate called the resolution “a cynical attempt” of Moscow to further its geopolitical aims by invoking the Holocaust and Second World War. In the same vein, Australia’s delegate called Moscow’s weaponization of the Holocaust and Nazism unacceptable.

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lol why do you think?

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It’s had a nazi government since the 2014 coup

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I used to believe that the Cuba embargo is due to Cuban refugee vote in Florida.

But that doesn’t make sense anymore given that Florida is no longer a swing state. In fact it never really made sense since the demo that is very pro-embargo has always been solidly Republican and therefore unwinnable.

So what really explains the embargo? Quite frankly I think it’s banana republic foreign policy and wealthy people in the US not wanting there to be a successful socialist state. For instance, the recent energy crisis in Cuba is driven by the Biden administration sanctioning oil tankers who visit the island. Why on earth would the supposedly pro-Cuba democrats do that? Who asked them to do that? Who had the clout to make them do that? Some losers in Florida who were going to vote for Trump in a red state anyway?

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This is correct, the US takes the threat of a good example very seriously, and has meddled in every single attempt at building any state, not only communist ones, that refuse to be controlled by US capitalists.

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NGL kinda shocked that the CIA wasn’t involved with the Argentine junta.

EDIT: It was! Your map needs more red on it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_Argentine_coup_d’%C3%A9tat

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"Do you know why there has never been a coup in America? Because there is no US Embassy there! "

Old joke from down here

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