For those who don’t know in Microsoft’s name micro means how much effort they’re putting to make their software and optimaze them.
It wasn’t first time when M$ made that serious mistake. It happned hundreds of times for almost a decade.
So… software with micro effort…
I up voted it for their effort anyway. It’s contributing discussion. Including you calling them out on it. You also deserve an (ultimately meaningless and fleeting) up vote.
It crashes my gaming computer regularly and I consider it poisoned. I am moving to Mac for good idc about gaming anymore if this is what its like now.
This isn’t the first time they’ve pushed an update which crashes PCs.
IIRC, the development/testing is done on Windows under VMs rather than a sample of real world hardware, so it’s like “well yeah, duh, no wonder why you keep releasing updates that crash & freeze end users machines”
Between shit like this, Crowdstrike, and Microsoft Recall I wonder why anyone even bothers with Windows anymore. I have both Mac and Linux (both which I love equally). Both of them don’t seem to have anywhere near these levels of issues - Macs I would hope not given the eye-watering amount I’ve spent on it, and Linux I could be forgiven if it did give me hassle, but no.
Between shit like this, Crowdstrike, and Microsoft Recall I wonder why anyone even bothers with Windows anymore.
It’s mostly a habit. I’m tech savvy I can even work on BSDs if there’s a necessity but the finance and legal teams at my workplace lose their mind whenever a button changes its place in an app update.
So we’re 400 macOS machines and chugging the remaining Windows users who won’t let go. Wish I could manage a single system only.
the development/testing is done on Windows under VMs rather than a sample of real world hardware
I highly doubt it, seriously, I don’t think they test update some VMs and say “that’s good”, there’s thousands and thousands people working at MS, I don’t know how many on win11 but certainly a few hundreds, I doubt none of them install the upgrade on real hardware to test.
I work with all sorts of Microsoft products daily.
And I’d be really surprised if a sane, sapient person used or tested their products in any way before they’re pushed out.
Cause then there just wouldn’t be any explanation for what the fuck they’re currently doing.
Between shit like this, Crowdstrike, and Microsoft Recall I wonder why anyone even bothers with Windows anymore
Out of necessity most likely, sometimes you either have no alternatives for proprietary software on Linux, or it’s extremely cumbersome to get and maintain such software on Linux.
the development/testing is done on Windows under VMs rather than a sample of real world hardware
And yet there’s a recent update that keeps killing my Windows VMs. They’ll run for a while then one day they install the update and won’t boot again. It really feels like MS have lost control of Windows testing these days.
Me just enjoying linux working while people around me constantly complain about windows. At this point have the money for mac or use linux is what i would say but of course you cant expect people to switch a part of their computer they didnt even know could be switched out.
It seems to me that Windows, which used to be reasonably stable (say, between XP and 10), as Microsoft systems go, has gone into beta status with Windows 11 and is now slipping into a kind of perpetual alpha.
Disclaimer, I haven’t used Windows seriously for decades (now and then for the odd game or for VR) and only boot it every other month to see what it looks like.
stable between XP and 10
I’m not sure I agree.
XP was good but definitely unstable, Vista was very unstable at the beginning. Shit, it was essentially broken on release for months for Nvidia users, even.
[E: to be clear, this was actually Nvidia’s fault. But MS should have known that expecting every hardware manufacturer to completely rewrite drivers in such short notice was a bad idea!]
It was only late Vista and throughout 7 when windows became pretty stable.
Windows 8 wasn’t unstable, I guess, just a major step down for usability (accessing the “charms bar” on a mouse was so bad an unintuitive that I’m shocked it made it past the focus group stage).
Early 10 was pretty stable, but very quickly deteriorated as they continued to shovel more bloat into Windows, spent more and more time working on spying/ads at the expense of other aspects of the OS, and had the bright idea of firing most of their testing team, because beta testing with end users is cheaper and what are they going to do if their PC is unstable? Install another OS? Lmao most people don’t even know Linux exists.
Windows 11 is basically the same in that regard. The instability of late-stage Win10, just with a lick of paint.
Well, I said it was stable for a Microsoft system.
I understand that it’s strange to people used to windows, but we had computers that just didn’t crash. Ever. Then everything moved to PC with windows and it all went to shit. Now it’s mostly back to unix which while not crashproof is at least reasonably resilient and a proper system.
Rose tinted glasses.
Xp was almost a nightmare on launch. But got fixed (security not withstanding) switching everyone over from DOS to NT was no simple feat, and there were a lot of issues.
Vista wasn’t great, but the change to drivers made it a nightmare.
7, 8, and 8.1 were fine.
But 10 was a nightmare for the first 5 years. Every other update would break things. And those came out about twice a year.
Windows 11 has been surprisingly issue free for me. 24H2 seems to be the buggiest update since so I’ve been holding back. But I updated to 22 and 23 and I never had any issues, nor did I hear too much complaining. Every major update has some minor issues, and that’s largely why MS staggers their releases.
I’m honestly surprised MS took this long to pause the rollout with how bad it’s been.
I never had stability issues in years of being on W11, Bazzite on the other hand, has locked up on me twice in the 2 weeks I’ve used it.
I’ve had the odd stability issue every now and then. (There was one ongoing issue with my wifi that was caused by a bug in my manufacturer’s driver, but that was years ago on Windows 10, and they eventually fixed it.) But I honestly haven’t had any issues caused specifically by Microsoft recently that I can recall.
Any problems caused by major features updates are usually solved by simply reinstalling the driver. (And I haven’t had any of those sorts of problems in at least a couple years.)
