63 points

This isn’t the first time they’ve pushed an update which crashes PCs.

IIRC, the development/testing is done on Windows under VMs rather than a sample of real world hardware, so it’s like “well yeah, duh, no wonder why you keep releasing updates that crash & freeze end users machines”

Between shit like this, Crowdstrike, and Microsoft Recall I wonder why anyone even bothers with Windows anymore. I have both Mac and Linux (both which I love equally). Both of them don’t seem to have anywhere near these levels of issues - Macs I would hope not given the eye-watering amount I’ve spent on it, and Linux I could be forgiven if it did give me hassle, but no.

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the development/testing is done on Windows under VMs rather than a sample of real world hardware

I highly doubt it, seriously, I don’t think they test update some VMs and say “that’s good”, there’s thousands and thousands people working at MS, I don’t know how many on win11 but certainly a few hundreds, I doubt none of them install the upgrade on real hardware to test.

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11 points

I work with all sorts of Microsoft products daily.
And I’d be really surprised if a sane, sapient person used or tested their products in any way before they’re pushed out.
Cause then there just wouldn’t be any explanation for what the fuck they’re currently doing.

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6 points

A couple of years ago they pushed out an update for the enterprise version of Windows Defender that deleted every single program shortcut from the start menu and desktop on every single device. There’s no way that was tested at all

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14 points

Between shit like this, Crowdstrike, and Microsoft Recall I wonder why anyone even bothers with Windows anymore

Out of necessity most likely, sometimes you either have no alternatives for proprietary software on Linux, or it’s extremely cumbersome to get and maintain such software on Linux.

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the development/testing is done on Windows under VMs rather than a sample of real world hardware

And yet there’s a recent update that keeps killing my Windows VMs. They’ll run for a while then one day they install the update and won’t boot again. It really feels like MS have lost control of Windows testing these days.

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4 points

Not as if updates that break things aren’t a thing on Linux…

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3 points

Between shit like this, Crowdstrike, and Microsoft Recall I wonder why anyone even bothers with Windows anymore.

It’s mostly a habit. I’m tech savvy I can even work on BSDs if there’s a necessity but the finance and legal teams at my workplace lose their mind whenever a button changes its place in an app update.

So we’re 400 macOS machines and chugging the remaining Windows users who won’t let go. Wish I could manage a single system only.

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3 points

Between shit like this, Crowdstrike, and Microsoft Recall I wonder why anyone even bothers with Windows anymore.

Or think about it differently. People hate Linux and Mac OS so much that they’d rather deal with this than deal with them.

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-9 points

Because they put micro effort to test their sofware before production as Micro$oft name suggest

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46 points

I’ve come to truly believe that MS stopped caring too much about windows now. They’re focused more on ads and other subscription services. They are still in the mindset of “we are the only player in the field and people can’t live without us”.

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16 points

You’d have thought they’d have learned from losing the browser monopoly they had 15 years ago due to complacency

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7 points

They are a mindless organization, not one or a few using logic. Everyone working there can figure out the general issues, on their own, for sure. But it’s an out of control huge organization. Even the top leadership is along for the ride at this point.

Every department is headed by competent and intelligent people, I assume. But they each only control a small slice of the environment, and even in each division there are many things the middle management cannot control directly. Too big

It’s not like a car manufacturer, there is an exponential difference in the number of parts to control and the complexity.

When the sales, and other parts are woven in, I doubt there is a dozen people alive who can explain how all the company structure works together

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They are still in the mindset of “we are the only player in the field and people can’t live without us”.

No, they are in the mindset “we are a company selling cloud Linux, our legacy products are money drain”. They clearly state it in their yearly reports.

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I just picked the one that lets me decide when to download the updates instead of when MS decides it’s time for me to download the updates. And I paid for the pro version just to get that.

It’ll be the last time I pay anything for Windows, and no, I don’t mean I’m going to switch to the ad supported version next. I’m hoping the last xbox game pass subscription payment I made before finally cancelling it is the last money they ever get from me.

And to add insult to injury, one of the last things I did before cancelling was scroll through their list of games and add the interesting looking ones to my steam wishlist, as well as the ones I uninstalled and enjoyed playing.

And yes, I realize I could have looked at that game list without a sub, but I had been delaying cancelling for a while because I always saw more games that I wanted to try when I looked through what they had and needed to do that to let go.

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31 points

Windows is just not quite there yet for desktop use. Give them a few years to clean up their sharp edges and clunky UX and add some long overdue features, then maybe it’ll be a real alternative.

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8 points

May we live long enough to witness the year of the Windows desktop!

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