A bounty on trans people? So I get paid by the state to catch 'em and turn 'em in so they can be issued their ‘up to $500 fine’? How cost ineffective.
Ah, it’s misinformation and done so poorly, in an attempt to dramatise, they used the wrong word.
So, the $10,000 is actually for lawsuits and can start there if anyone found guilty of the crime had also caused damages. That’s very normal for laws of people being somewhere they’ve been told not to be and damaging stuff. Like if I break the toilet seat I’m standing on while peering over the top of the cubicle to watch you pee.
It’s articles like this that do not help a cause at all.
It can only be assumed this works in favour of anyone on that 5-2 vote that doesn’t like trans people. If that’s the case then it should be attacking gender identity issues for bathroom use, not trespass laws started in 1989 using binaries. (Yes, in an effort to get the actual information, I read other actual news articles)
The 10k is the statuatory minimum and its paid from the person just trying to take a piss to the psychopath policing who can piss where who was not in any way damaged. It is not at all normal to pay random people out of the pockets of those breaking the law.
In this case it encourages bigots to attack trans people trying to pee by allowing them to legally rob them if they catch them.
Worse it encourages such attacks whichever bathroom they use. Dress like a girl use the womans room get attacked for using the wrong bathroom, use the mens room get attacked for being a woman in the means room.
Using the bounty as a method of enforcement exists because the law is deemed likely unlawful. It exists explicitly to stop a pre emptive lawsuit against the government to stop enforcement.
Are you willfully ignorant or do you not understand how Jim Crow laws work?
https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/odessa-tx-just-put-10000-bounties
As far as I can see, the article doesn’t misrepresent this law. It says that anyone has standing to sue a trans person for using a gender-appropriate bathroom, and the damages of at least $10,000 would be awarded if the trans person lost the lawsuit. Normally, as I understand it, you wouldn’t have standing unless someone’s activity had provably harmed you, but by waiving this the door is open for the trans person’s use of a bathroom to be judged harmful in itself. So, a bounty on trans people.
This is in a similar legal realm as the abortion bounty. There are a lot of legal experts who claim that there is no standing, while the conservative judges have held that it is a harm against society at large. So any member of society has standing.
It’s a twisted and dangerous legal framework to establish. It’s already been used to attack the second amendment as well. It’s not good for any political side.
Despite what the law might say, there’s no evidence whatsoever that letting trans people use their preferred bathroom causes any “injury or harm” to cis people.
To the contrary, there is evidence that restricting bathroom access is harmful to trans people - and cis people too, like Jay, a cis woman who was harassed in a bathroom after being mistaken for a trans person.
Even if they use the “right” restroom trans people are in danger of being harassed all the same if they pass too well: https://www.advocate.com/news/2022/7/12/trans-man-brutally-assaulted-using-womens-restroom-campground
Damned if you do, and damned if you don’t. The point of laws like this isn’t to protect cis women and girls, it’s just to cause as much suffering as possible, because that’s all Republicans care about.
Also there is evidence that it is harmful to cis people. Especially cis women who might be queer or straight or gender nonconforming or not. These fuckwads always forget trans men exist and just harass women more with this shit. They don’t give a fuck off you’re trans or not, it’s about control. And their especially interested in controlling women.
It’s also directly tied to fascism. Eco points to Machismo in point 12 of Ur-Fascism. “[Fascists hold] both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.” Meaning it’s not just women, trans women, gay men, people outside of traditional 1940s gender roles, but it also includes straight, cis men who just don’t seem to be straight and cis enough.
Despite what the law might say, there’s no evidence whatsoever that letting trans people use their preferred bathroom causes any “injury or harm” to cis people.
Can confirm: Having shared many a bathroom with trans folks and I have managed to survive unharmed. Who would have thunk?
Any allies game to go to the mayor’s office and conduct a shit-in?
Can’t legally use a bathroom? Let’s go on the floor.
I can legally shit in any room. I even have a card somewhere licensing me to do so. My shits are the stankiest. I can’t make it to Odessa until 11/1 (i have an appointment today) but I will gladly drop a deuce directly in his office.
edit: i just got home from my appointment I need a flight to odessa if we’re gonna do this
edit: I’ve been saving up. It’s gonna be a très
There should be a name for this. “The constituent letter” or “The Pelosi kiss” or maybe “The MAGA crayon.”
Some of us remember the coed bathroom featured on the hit 90s show Ally McBeal. It seemed like a progressive but not so far fetched idea at the time. So WTF are we doing still arguing about this 25 years later? These bathroom nazis need to get a grip.
The real answer. Skip the whole gender thing if it’s an issue. Certainly public restrooms being ungendered entirely won’t be a problem, who knows why we have it this way…
who knows why we have it this way…
The answer is sexism. When women started to enter the workforce there was concern that they would get “overwhelmed”, so gendered bathrooms were created to give them a space they could go to that feels like the home.
So were there no gendered bathrooms in public places before then as well?
Here is the names and photo of the Odessa city council.
https://www.odessa-tx.gov/670/City-Council
Here is the mayor.
https://www.odessa-tx.gov/Directory.aspx?EID=112
I think it’s definitely worth observing the city hall restrooms in case they are using the one that doesn’t fit their gender so you can collect that bounty.
And remember, you don’t have to make sure, you know one when you see one.
