This is not someone killed in battle:
Donald Trump raged when he learned the funeral bill for Vanessa Guillén—the U.S. soldier who was sexually harassed and horrifically murdered by a male soldier at Fort Hood in 2020—cost $60,000, a bombshell report revealed Tuesday.
Somehow knowing the circumstances of her death makes Trump’s awful remark even nastier. Especially since he is a rapist.
Guillén, a 20-year-old American of Mexican ancestry from Houston, was buried in her hometown on Aug. 15, 2020. Months later, in December, Trump reportedly asked his advisers in a meeting, “Did they bill us for the funeral? What did it cost?"
When an aide responded “yes” with the bill’s total, Trump allegedly unraveled. “It doesn’t cost 60,000 bucks to bury a f—ing Mexican,” he said, according to people in the meeting who spoke to the Atlantic.
Trump says vile things every day but this has to be one of the vilest.
Trump would be nothing without his enablers. They definitely deserve your loathing first.
Damn, he was almost close to making a valid comment about how wildly overpriced funerals are today, then instead went full bore into super racism
Super racism. Almost makes ya reminisce over just plain ol’ regular racism, right?
He followed through with the sentiment too.
The magazine reported that Trump then turned to his chief of staff, Mark Meadows, and ordered him, “Don’t pay it!” That order was apparently heeded by Meadows, as the Atlantic reported that Trump never sent a dime to help cover funeral costs for the slain woman.
It’s absolutely vile to invite the mother to the white house, offer to pay, and then later rescind that offer.
If he’d never offered it wouldn’t matter.
This is just so so abhorrent, even for trump.
Racism aside, if I offered someone to help pay for a funeral, I’d choke in my coffee too if I the bill said $60.000 .
But he definitely doesn’t think the same way about the people voting for him…
That’s the main point I never understood about his voters. His political agenda and your political affiliation don’t even matter. All you have to understand is that everything he does is for his own benefit. Nobody wants an egoist in charge in a smaller setting - why the fuck elect one as president?
It’s as if they all think that they’ll be rewarded for their loyalty to him.
Bad news: if America goes under everyone goes under. You can’t rip out a backbone of the global markets and expect no fallout.
And this is an american. Republicans should be afraid he can change whatever “american” is whenever he wants.
What’s funny is his dumb brain immediately went with “What are the costs? I can blame the dems for cost” without even considering the circumstances
It’s perfectly emblematic of how Trump doesn’t just ‘other’ people for political gain, it’s built in.
You’re missing a verb but you’re probably right.
Edit: My bad, I misread.
“This is not someone killed in battle”
That sentence does not prepare you for the rest… Not that it would excuse Trump at all if they died “normally”. And I would say she definitely died in battle, just not in a war, her battle with the SA and everything is just as valid as anything else. I’d change that sentence if I were you.
How the hell is he winning so much of the Black and Hispanic vote? Like… any percentage at all?
A higher percent of the Hispanic support than any republican nominee in history (as high as 45%) with closest next being George W. Bush.
…and as low as 29% - depending on which polls you look at. The important thing is to make it seem like a close race so people will keep looking at ads.
That only counts Latino RV in swing states, excluding Georgia. And it’s 31% not 29%. That means it’s not counting the vast majority of Latino voters in the states with the largest Latino populations, notably California, Florida, Texas, or New York. That’s hardly a representative sample. This is the definition of selectively cherry-picking data to support your point.
Hispanics have a very high population of religious voters and many of them don’t believe in abortion. For many religious people, even if they disagree handily with everything else the Republican party does, they will not vote Democrat because of the abortion issue.
There was a pretty large research study and a bunch of podcasts on it.
This! My guess is that being religious and conservative is at least 75% of the reason why Hispanics would support Trump. My father was a Colombian born immigrant who in my memory always supported the Republican party and the majority of the years after he got his citizenship I’m certain he never voted Democrat. He did come around though before passing in 2023 and I’m pretty sure he did not support or vote for Trump. >
He’s not, he had higher polling with African Americans in the last two elections than actual voters, he had extremely low voting numbers with African Americans, slightly higher with men, but not by that much, it’s really common in politics to have a lot of people doing shady bullshit to see if it will sway elections, also the population nation wide is low enough that getting a sample size that’s actually representative is not likely, even some trusted unbiased polling was using the opinion of one single person to represent all polling numbers in a whole state and the poll was pretty old by that point as well, so with African Americans you see a lot of really strange lookin poll numbers, but believe me, Trump going after Haitian refugees with racist tropes about ‘‘savage’’ and voodoo bullshit made him quite vile to antiracists of all stripes, I don’t think those numbers are going to pan out at all.
Now Hispanics, that’s a whole different story, being Hispanic myself I can tell you, it’s not a solid voting block. We aren’t as good at consistently voting in our own interests. There’s light skinned people who think they’re white enough to be in the whites only club, racism isn’t hard to find among Hispanics, many do hate African Americans and others, so the white identifying crowd can be pretty similar to racist whites in a lot of ways, you also have Hispanics that are very concerned with hyper mauculinity and want the strongest man, and only think in terms of displays vs substance, and there’s deeply religious Hispanics who can get drawn in with the evangelical rhetoric. So your not going to see a big percentage on one vote or issue with Hispanics, it’s always going to be a mixed bag even with Trump’s promise too deport more Hispanics from the US regardless of legal status, or his call backs to ‘‘operation wetback’’ or this bullshit, you just won’t see big sweeping numbers from Hispanics it will always be slip up.
There’s light skinned people who think they’re white enough to be in the whites only club
Bro I’m whiter than sour cream, I’m actually grateful for global warming because everytime it snows no one in my family can find each other anymore, and I’m STILL not white enough to be in the Whites Only Club. You need white skin AND approval from a lot of guys named Ben, Franklin that is, if you get what I’m saying…
Money you need a lot of money.
Because most people don’t follow politics that closely and are simply unaware of stories like this, but are vulnerable to the forces of nostalgia and false memories of the first Trump administration, plus lingering fondness from the character he played on the Apprentice.
He’s not, the media just wants it to look like a super-close race so people will keep watching ads.
See, at this point… I’m either convinced Harris has pretty much got this in the bag and the media is lying to get people to doomscroll because money, or there’s a Copium Leak and when it’s fixed I’ll see that Trump is coming to kill us all.
The former feels weirdly more valid…
Still VOTE, I ALREADY HAVE! MY STATE HAS EARLY VOTING, FIND OUT IF YOURS DOES TOO!
You probably have confirmation bias based on your environment. I own a contracting company and many in the trades drink the koolaid, and are completely blind that they are voting themselves poor over the long term.
Some people can only learn through pain - they can’t express empathy past what they personally experience - and those people tend to be squarely trump voters. They’ll vote for bacon every day as pigs, and only realize their mistake afterwards.
I desperately want to believe that about the media, but Tim Miller and the folks at Pod Save America (whom I trust to be brutally honest) are also constantly talking about how close the race is. I’m so fucking depressed about this shit. We are this close to having a literal fascist as President.
This fucking son of a bitch had to ask John Kelly who the good guys were in WWI.
FUCK.
And the family he said it about continues to kiss his ass. What the fuck is wrong with people?
We are grateful for everything he has done and continues to do to support our troops.
Says the sister of the soldier who was sexually abused and slain at Fort Hood, TX.
And the Veterans for Trump organization of course had this to say on the matter:
Trump reportedly complained later in the day that these “fucking people” are “trying to rip me off.”
He thinks it’s his money.
I mean, to be fair, at least someone cares about the egregious waste that taxpayers spend their money on just to make rich people rich.
It most certainly should not cost $60k of taxpayer money to bury a soldier. Someone, odds are a small group of interconnected people, is making profit off of fleecing the American public.
That’s not what he cares about here, though. Very obviously.
As one of SO MANY examples, he charged the secret service, i.e. Taxpayers, ridiculously inflated daily costs after requiring that they stay in trump owned properties throughout his time in office and have events planned and catered by his businesses at equally exorbitant prices.
So, on balance here, You’re either ignorant or you’re intentionally trying to show trump in what you think is a favorable light. You can acknowledge that what you said here is unfathomably short sighted at best and edit your original post OR you can just sit there unmoved and show your whole ass as a fraud trying to make a coward’s argument for trump.
That cost isn’t even high by civilian standards, and the military has struggled to provide proper servicee, you’d be surprised how many people who are in uniform providing services at military funerals are just people willing to volunteer to do so at their own cost, some travel quite a length to do so.
The next time someone asks you about being a patriot, supporting the troops, and so forth, keep in mind that your against proper funeral services for veterans to save a nickel and represent that view. Be honest, let them know you don’t care.
