Dozens of interviews with people deeply familiar or involved with the election process point to a clear consensus: Not only could Trump make a second attempt at overturning an election he loses, he and his allies are already laying the groundwork.

Archived at https://ghostarchive.org/archive/8e3Ri

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The plan is pretty simple.

  1. Win PA, hold the red states. Trump Wins.

  2. If a red state falls, get it’s leadership to declare a Republican win anyway or refuse to send delegates to the Electoral College. This denies Harris EC votes.

  3. Number 2 may mean neither candidate gets 270 EC votes, in this case a joint session of Congress will decide the election. Unless a miracle happens this will be Trump because they vote by State delegation.

  4. If Harris wins PA and the Rust Belt, go to SCOTUS.

  5. If all else fails, go back to January 6th but with rhetoric meant to make the mob want to occupy the Capitol permanently.

They’re already trying to get county clerks and election officials to do the job from the inside. Trump even honors them in person at his rallies. So buckle up for a year where election fraud goes big.

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Number 5 may be part of the plan but it won’t work this time. It only worked last time because Trump himself refused to increase security around the Capitol.

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Also because security mostly refused to use deadly force. Those security forces are mostly used to dealing with tourist issues, not criminals with guns. That may change if more hardened, militarized police forces are used.

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He doesn’t typically attract the smart voters.

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  1. If all else fails, go back to January 6th

I doubt the capitol police and national guard will be unprepared for that this time.

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Occupy the capitol permanently? As if the military industrial complex doesn’t have special forces squads who specifically train to exterminate this kind of threat. The nanosecond it becomes serious again, shots will be fired into the insurrectionists until they either give up or stop breathing

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You think Trump cares about the people in the mob?

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WE KNOOOOWWWW. It’s the worst-kept secret in politics. People in other countries are aware. The birds are aware. It’s part and parcel of the experience of fascism. Never underestimate what pure evil is capable of doing.

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Realistically is there anything we can do?

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SI

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Be ready, especially if you’re on the east coast.

The rednecks are assuming they’re the only ones with balls and nobody else will stand up to them, like all bullies think.

Prove them wrong.

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As a Redneck dont associate us with the white trash. Some of us still remember Blair Mountain and arent fond of the comparison.

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at a personal level, contact the governor and ask them how you can be certain as a voter that trump won’t steal the election like he tried in 2020.

let them know you’re paying attention.

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My fucking Governor is in on it

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Save up so you can buy a bus/train/plane ticket to DC if they try shit. If they do what they’re signaling and the legislature fails us it’ll be down to mass civil disobedience to keep the country from fascism.

I wish I had a better answer, but they’ve eroded so many of our institutions.

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Grassroots political activism and civic engagement. A sufficiently large victory would help discredit their methods going into the future. In the shorter term, our own legions of poll watchers will provide additional witnesses to offer witness testimony when things inevitably land in court.

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Give em the D!

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Saving America one D at a time.

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In the event of a electoral system collapse, the BIOS of government is “who would the military support?”

Harris wins enough states to get to 270 and then (Some electoral votes get sent wrong/don’t get sent and congress/SCOTUS rules Trump the winner), Harris asked the military “who do you support?” and it might be Trump is put in jail by the military before he can be sworn in. Sets a bad “president”, but if you throw out the rules to win, expect the other side to do the same.

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Except that the Dems are consistently unwilling to play hardball. The generals would have to make the decision to intervene without being asked for that scenario to play out. I don’t know much about sentiment in the upper (or even lower) ranks of the US military, but that seems unlikely.

Even then, there’s a significant chance Harris refuses to be put in power by military intervention, or the generals believe she would remove them and instruct her attorney general to prosecute them. So military intervention, if successful, would at best mean new (military supervised) elections.

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Sorry to be pedantic but the word is “precedent”

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99.9% sure that’s in quotes because it’s an intentional pun

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He will try to ensure Harris is denied 270 votes in the Electoral College, sending the election to the House, where Republicans are likely to have the numbers to choose Trump as the next president

This seems like the most likely outcome. System needs reform.

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Reform is a compromise. The system needs to be abolished and rebuilt from the ground up.

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I wouldn’t have high hopes for a new constitutional convention right now either.

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Overturning a Kamala Harris victory would require an enormous amount of help from Republican power brokers in statehouses and Congress, some of whom spurned him four years ago.

That won’t be a problem for them. Republicans spurn only until it’s to their personal advantage to un-spurn.

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If it wasn’t for double standards they wouldn’t have any

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