Itās strange how us older ex-metalheads are the first different generation music wise
Our parents were horrified by our taste in music. Their parents were horrified by their taste in music, their parents were horrified by their taste in music
Weāre the first generation that listens to our kidsā music and goes
Itās the same though isnāt it? While itās not the reason why we liked the music we liked (more punk than metal for me but same difference) it was always a bonus if your parents didnāt like it. Thatās exactly the reaction that kids are getting from their parents now!
Well there are two areas to explore here. The quality of the music and itās message. And the parenting we endured. I became a metal head for both reasons. My parents music didnāt resonate with me. The over simplified music structure just bored me. There wasnāt anything epic about it. And then the message didnāt resonate when it was all happy rose gardens and unicorns. My dad was an abusive asshole. Metal gave me that angry outlet.
At least my mom understands where I come from even she doesnāt understand why I listen to what I listen to. She divorced him and shit changed. Now my son loves metal and his mom doesnāt get it.
Yeah I hear you, those experiences would no doubt stear you to something that provided an outlet. But, and I want to acknowledge that Iām not dismissing anything you endure, ultimately rebellion is what weāre talking about and the eventual outlet is almost irrelevant.
Iām glad youāre able to share music you like with you son.
Same with mine. Sheās the reason I love Rammstein. We share music with each other a lot, itās awesome. My dads more old fashioned and likes classic rock but heāll tolerate me and my brother playing our favourite metal songs for him at least!
Iām really into new metal bands though, because they are constantly releasing stuff. There are bands out there like Black Breath that will still melt your face off, but I really like the more experimental side of metal, with bands like Abstract Void, Unreqvited, and Botanist all pushing the envelope of what metal is.
Five Finger Death Punch is as close as you can possibly get to pop music without leaving the genre of metal completely. I donāt judge people if itās their jam, I just think they are extremely mediocre at best. Itās no coincidence that the majority of their most popular songs are covers.
But hey, people like what they like.
I just feel like their songs are specifically targeted to edgy 13 year olds. āwrong side of heaven and righteous side of hellā I mean, cāmon.
I donāt get this point of view, maybe I should because it sounds logical. But again sometimes I want to listen to harpsichords in E by Bach. And sometimes I want to listen to hallowed be thy name from iron maiden, sometimes I want to listen to a nightmare to remember by dream theater, and sometimes I want to listen to wrong side of heaven by ffdp.
Itās like the same logic that I love eatimg healthy home made delicious filipino food every day of the week, by my excellent cook of a wife. And yet occasionally I get a craving for a menu at burger King with a monster energy drink.
It is as if there is redeemable factors in both
Tbf, the metal bands you mentioned are all on the operatic side of metal, which is a nice subgenre. Many metal fans would say that there are definitive bands which categorize one subgen vs another. Iāve never heard of Five Finger Death Punch, and thought the name was actually Five Flavored Fruit Punch. Maybe an opportunity for Weird Al here š
I tend to like pop metal the same way I like pop punk. Itās not going to make me feel anything but itās catchy. Itās good for working out or working on the motorcycle and similar things where I want a driving background but donāt want to get way into it.
That being said, the kind of people who listen to FFDP put me off of their music. Itās like thatās the first metal they ever heard then decided to make it their whole personality.
I agree they are mediocre (at best), but as for sounding poppy, youāre forgetting we have a whole metal subgenre called hair metal.
Ghost is in the same boat. Donāt get me wrong, they write some great songs, but they are perilously close to pop
Iāve seen Ghost described as āSpooky ABBAā and somehow it kinda checks out. Not even mad, ABBA is great and so is Ghost
āBon Jovi for Goth Dadsā is the other one I enjoy. I love Ghost, Tobias writes exactly the music he wants. Not trying to be metal, he was heavily influenced by og heavy metal (Sabbath) and the theatrics of the glam/hair metal era (Kiss). Combine the two and ya, thatās just Ghost.
Itās very intentionally campy and fun, like year round Halloween.
Well, thereās also āpunk goes popā stuff, like the good old https://youtube.com/watch?v=gbMbCbEp5cA
I always come back to I Prevailās cover of Blank Space. Sometimes it can even trick me into believing Tswift is a good song writer
Or Ice Nine Kills parodying both the song and the music video and managing to make it less creepy in the process
Well, thereās also āpunk goes popā stuff
My favorite. Those lyrics were surprisingly unsettling.
Do you like Cradle of Filth?
Honestly donāt understand the hate ffdp gets.
If someone could clue me in thatād be nice cause like I genuinely like a lot of their original songs as well as the remakes.
I have no clue about music in general, but ffdp are pretty basic when it comes to their song structure, a lot of simple and repetitive rhythms. Add to that that they sound recorded better than live (IMO) and theyāre American which can lead to prejudices in the metal community and the bands easy to joke about.
they sound recorded better than live
Thatās like 90% of all musicians though.
i think the reson behind that has little to do with the music. idk how it is now but a few years ago the band had baddd infighting and made it all public. i am talking up to the level of dissolving the band on stage, just to continue for the revenue the next day. I assume many of the ffdp haters were fans of the music back then, but got dissapointed by the musicans to the point they couldnt enjoy it anymore.
Remember if someone hates a thing, its likely they still care about it.
