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“a genocide” LOL…this palestine propaganda is really getting out og hand. it is one of the many current genocides. russians wiping out cultures and nations, china on tibet or the uigurs, shit syria on aramaics and assyrians, fucking turkey on kurds and armenians. but yeah…it is “one” genocide now. kids are fucking stupid.

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You had me in the first part, NGL.

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How dare you assume I was talking about Palestine, I was talking about the Uyghurs in China.

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Then you should have voted blue, idiot. This situation exists because of apathy and antigovernment sentiment.

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uhhhh, the blue that’s currently in power?

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Not the case but nice try, repub

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Not the case but nice try, random person from the internet

I’m not even an American. To my knowledge, democrats are currently in power. Other guys did a good job explaining the actual situation, you on the other hand…

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Holding one of three branches is not “in power.”

All spending bills have to originate in the republican controlled house. Anything the administration tries to do on it’s own has to survive a heavily politicized Supreme Court. A Supreme Court that would be radically different without the Trump presidency. We’ll be dealing with those Trump appointees for a generation and they’ll do far more harm than he ever did. Not enough people voting blue in 2016 is going to have very long lasting consequences.

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Are you aware of who controlled the House, Presidency, and Senate from 2021-2023?

Hint:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/117th_United_States_Congress

Not enough people voting blue in 2016 is going to have very long lasting consequences.

Hillary’s people trying to shove her down America’s throats and propping up trump in the primary because he was the only one she had a chance to beat is going to have very long lasting consequences.

And letting those same people run Kamala’s campaign and still the DNC is still fucking shit up.

When the only metric for DNC leadership positions is how much bribe money from billionaires total legit donations we shouldn’t be surprised the party and chosen candidate keep favoring money over votes

Rather than yell at voters to accept it, maybe we should restructure the DNC so the people in charge know how to win an election against a candidate as terrible as trump?

Edit:

And for a fair comparison, trump also had 2 years with both houses than one split.

Same as Biden.

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House is 220 R to 212 D

Senate is 51 D (+I) to 49 R

The last time there was a Dem Supermajority was over a decade ago and it lasted about a month.

And the Supreme Court is stacked with Republicans with lifetime appointments. That supreme court has been taking bribes and they can’t be removed without a supermajority vote.

But yes the blue currently in power that tried multiple times to cancel student loan debt, enshrine reproductive rights, protect and expand healthcare coverage, raise the minimum wage. The current blue that successfully ended several huge corporate mergers, fined companies for raising prices of goods, and has a housing plan to add 3 Million available units. Literally everything the meme cares about and more is as simple as voting correctly for your interests.

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Did Clinton ever undo all the load of crap Reagan and Bush gave us?

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Clinton was 30 fucking years ago and Republicans have been stonewalling ever since then on every since one of these issues.

What the fuck are you talking about about???

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Clinton signed into law a whole raft of neoliberal policies that were started by Bush, and the cumulative effects of those policies over those decades are what we’re feeling right now and what we warned about back then. The frogs have been boiled while the populace bickers about which neoliberal corporate shill sits on the puppet throne. They’re after all our money and they’re getting it by distracting us with the political circus and dividing us with wedge issues.

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Clinton is one the few presidents in the last 100 years that has operated on a SURPLUS. Meaning he’s the only president to lower the national debt

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H. W. actually fought against the Reaganomics himself, so while the two didn’t agree on foreign policy there wasn’t much that had to be undone between Bush and Clinton.

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I’m on board with the sentiment but are we really defending TikTok? I haven’t kept up on the issue but personally I wouldn’t cry if TikTok went away.

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Facefuck and Twatter are just as bad but they spy on Americans for America, so it is allowed

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Ding ding ding. Huge diff between China having that data and us companies, yes.

You’re learning!

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Save your condescension for someone else

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Exactly get rid of all of them

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I want Facebook! The one without recommendations and with posts from my friends.

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They won’t go away until people stop using them, and good luck with that.

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I mean from American government pov that’s a lot better

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We are not defending tiktok

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Didn’t you know that if you criticize one thing it means the opposite is perfect and beyond reproach!

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They aren’t protecting you. They are protecting themselves from what you may give their enemies. Don’t think just because the federal government is doing something “for the people” that nominally it’s not about the government itself. National security is literally the government protecting itself by protecting its citizens.

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Pretty much this! Also it is much easier and cheaper to tell Google to stop offering tiktok in their app store then it is to build affordable housing where it is needed…

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Yea but where? There’s a push for it in my state. Drove past a new area that will be a neighborhood of cookie cutter SFH, probably with driveways too short to contain full size vehicles. And they’ll cost more than half a million so I’m not sure how that’s affordable. Anyway. It’s being built on the flood plain. 8/10 flood factor.

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Ah yes, the obvious solution: more suburban blight.

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We really need more high density housing closer to urban centers, but Americans seem to be allergic to it. Everyone wants their single family house. Also too, without subsidies they’re is no profit incentive for developers to build the necessary housing stock, they all shoot for “luxury” housing because it’s the most profitable.

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Facebook sold personal data to a foreign organization called Cambridge Analytica who used it to influence our elections. If their motivations are to protect us via protecting themselves, why is Facebook not banned, and not even in the discussion of being banned?

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And we should ban them too. I love this argument. We need better user data privacy laws, and this whataboutism does not change the fact that China is a hostile foreign nation.

I can appreciate that people view Google and Meta and so on as very similar in their transgressions. But as was pointed out in the original comment, this is a cost to benefit ratio type of analysis for the federal government and they gain more by keeping Meta and Google going and can enact other measures to prevent that from hurting them (usually reactionary), so to them this is fine. It is and always has been about what the US government can to do protect itself and enrich itself. Enrichment doesn’t always come in the form of monetary value.

If you’re upset at your own government (or government adjacent tech entities) gathering this type of data from users, you should be for banning them too, not keeping tik tok.

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I am for severely restricting the ability for all corporations to gather and sell user data. You think I’m making a whattaboutism or whatever debate buzzword you want to conjure up; what I’m taking issue with is the argument that the reason they’re getting banned has anything to do with that data collection or “national security”. If that had any truth to it, Facebook would have gotten the same treatment, or at the very least would be in the conversation now since they do the same exact shit. If this was about data collection they would pass regulations about that instead of targeting one specific site to unilaterally ban.

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Wrong. They let Cambridge collect it on their platform. Huge difference.

The rest of your post is irrelevant.

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Their justification for banning Tiktok is that it allows the Chinese government to collect on their platform. It’s the same fucking thing.

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For one thing, today isn’t 2015

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Did occurring in 2015 happen to make it less bad somehow? We sure as hell weren’t passing laws to ban facebook back then either, so I’m not sure what point you think you’ve made.

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Ok but fuck tik Tok. Ban that shit. This comment is basically saying that banning tik Tok takes the same effort as giving your people healthcare.

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The amount of time and money the American government and associated propaganda agencies (they call them news ) have spent on anti TikTok (really just a racist anti China campaign) would definitely have made a huge difference if spent on their social safety net.

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Yeah, tik tok is only hastening the collapse of civilization.

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