“The last thing I would do is trust a computer program,” says the owner of a car company developing self driving & rocket company building automation into rocket launches.
That’s why you’re supposed to have paper backups. And you audit things.
Edit: I think you could even get a real time audit and still be electronic with backups
- You go to machine and vote
- It prints off a copy of what you voted and records it (this is the primary vote count)
- You verify the paper ballot print off and take it to a second area to be recorded and kept for audits.
- Put ballot in second machine which validates and counts the vote and externally shows a counter increase on the machine for votes counted (not who) so you also know this machine counted it for a total.
So now you have the proper vote tallies from 1. The audit of the correct amount of total records from 4. If there’s any cause for concern or for auditing, you can manually count the paper ballots.
Well, actually that’s correct, which is why there are various approaches to make it possible to trust an output of a computer program, verify it against that of other such computer programs, and so on.
But in my opinion the whole idea of voting sucks. It’s less democratic than sortition. With sortition minority positions are disadvantaged, but with most systems involving vote they are absolutely trumped (pun intended, though saying “harrised” would not be as far as I’d like).
Republics which used sortition have historically existed for very long spans of time. In Antiquity, in Middle Ages, during Renaissance. It’s harder to cheat with. Which also means it’s harder to sow distrust in.
And, well, humans are superstitious creatures and results of sortition are much more similar to how they see divine will.
Sortition is also more honest, it doesn’t abuse the human instinct of allowing politicians more than their rightful mandate when elected by a majority vote. When the reason a person holds some position is because a of a lucky die, the society looks at them more critically and they themselves know they won’t enter that river for a second time.
To be fair, I wouldn’t trust a computer program for voting either, but I would trust and ride in an autonomously landing rocket.
Which is why I much prefer the scantron type fill in the bubble ballots, you get a full digital count with an easily cross referenced ballot.
So you fully trust computers that can kill you and others without a thought, but you don’t trust a computer to do the insanely simpler task of “count paper?”
Also, musk and all the other disingenuous shitheads are complaining about any digital counting, including your preferred scantron ballots. They want very slow, flaw ridden human counting only, so they can inject chaos and noise into the electorial system and force the “congress picks the president” process in our constitution that will always favor the GOP.
Paper ballots are already used in 98% of all US elections, they are just counted digitally. These are not serious people with serious concerns.
A computer that lands a rocket incorrectly is found out immediately.
A computer that tallies votes incorrectly may never be found out.
Didn’t Dominion already win at least one defamation lawsuit because some jackass was spewing these lies? Gonna love seeing Elmo have to pay up, just a shame it won’t cost him enough to make him shut the fuck up.
Fox News settled for $787 million.
I would love to see Musk go down like that.
He could, sadly, do that a few dozen times and still be ok.
We need to eat the rich.
Well having to find that much liquidity that fast can be a problem even for someone as rich as Musk, no?
If I own musk stock I would consider selling before he dumps $1B worth of stock on the market, and try to pick it up again cheaply. I can see it wipe out massive market cap from his companies…
I don’t know, if they manage to get a judgment against him for a couple billion dollars, that’s like 10% of his worth after he tanked Twitter.
Friendly reminder that an Immigrant African American Welfare Queen, with numerous baby mommas and children he don’t even talk to, is a foreign actor attempting to sway American Elections by spreading fake news. Truly the enemy within that needs to be addressed, there is a reason he travels with as many as 20 bodyguards just to touch grass Source.
“The probability that a homicidal maniac will try to kill you is proportionate to how many homicidal maniacs hear your name,” he said. “So they hear my name a lot — I’m like, ‘OK, I’m on the list,’ you know.”
this makes it sound like high profile assassinations are caused by a bunch of “maniacs” pulling names out of hats
He watched the documentaries about The Jerk and The Terminator.
Considering the first attempt on Trump’s life, and I hate to admit it, but he’s not that far off. I can’t tell you how large of a quantity it is, but trump sure riled up a bunch of mentally ill people who may or may not have a good grasp of their mental stability.
If the assassins weren’t deranged, they would choose their targets better. If you want to effect political change through assassination, you don’t target the puppet. You target the person controlling the puppet.
Sounds like dominion should sue musk too
Ohh please let this be actionable a la Fox News
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