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The focus this community has on sovcits strikes me as mean-spirited and cruel. These are mostly poorly educated or mentally handicapped people with major financial issues who are being scammed by people offering false solutions to their problems.

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These are mostly poorly educated or mentally handicapped people

Nonsense.

In fact, grifters will tell you that educated people are much easier to grift because they think they’re too smart to be scammed.

There’s a reason why Jack Abramoff was able to con so many rich people out of their money and why smart people end up in cults.

Even smart people who aren’t in cults can believe very silly things, as silly as what SovCits believe. Linus Pauling thinks vitamin C is a panacea. Ray Kurzweil thinks he’ll be able to upload his brain to a computer in 10 years and has thought so since the 1990s. Bobby Fischer thinks Jews control the world.

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Just because you can find examples of educated people falling for grifts doesn’t mean most people who fall for grifts are educated. Frankly, it’s absurd and completely counterintuitive. You would have to show me some hard data to prove that correlation.

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I gave you multiple examples of the most prominent sovcit cases elsewhere.

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Ray Kurzweil thinks he’ll be able to upload his brain to a computer in 10 years and has thought so since the 1990s.

Kurzweil fervently wishes he’ll be able to do this; existential angst drives many people, uneducated or not, to all sorts of religions. At least Kurtzweil is making educated guesses based on technological progress - wrong guesses, but still within the realm of reasonable.

There’s no mysticism to the singularity. There’s nothing preventing what he hopes for except engineering sophistication. We know most of the what, and maybe even a good chunk of the how, and we’re making progress. Nothing in the idea of brain uploading depends on an ineffable spirit, or anything we can’t already prove.

If we don’t destroy ourselves or the planet, there’s no reason we won’t get there eventually. Just not soon enough for Ray or his loved ones, and probably not in time for anyone currently alive. It’s not likely we’ll never achieve it simply because we burn up the planet first, and run out of resources to continue frivolous research like immortality.

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I wouldn’t say there’s no mysticism in the singularity, at least not in the sense you’re implying here. While it uses secular and scientific aesthetics rather than being overtly religious the roadmap it presents relies on specific assumptions about the nature of consciousness, intelligence, and identity that may sound plausible but aren’t really more rational than having an immortal soul that gets judged at the end of days.

And it doesn’t help that when confronted by any kind of questioning of how plausible any of this is there’s a tendency to assume a sufficiently powerful AI can solve the problem and assume that’s the end of it. It’s not less of a Deus ex Machina if you call it an AI instead of a God to focus on the Machina instead of the Deus.

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I realize it’s not mysticism. But it is believing something silly considering he’s been saying it’s just around the corner for decades now.

Sure, maybe one day it will happen. But it’s like space colonies or everyone using flying cars. It’s always going to happen in the near future.

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They’re honestly not that at all, a very few are whom I never post, but most of them are really obnoxious far right grifters who got this idea from Qanon and the like and are doing it because they want to stick it to the government that they hate and get what they can for free. They’re actually super nasty people.

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56 points

He sent in the cupon instead of the coupon. Rookie mistake. Now he’s on the hook for the entire loan amount.

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3 points

I’m on mobile and unable to zoom in on the picture. How much personal info is readable through the cover letter?

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Well, not even through the cover letter, the vin is entirely visible in the printed cover. That’s probably not great. I know anyone’s vin is totally visible in public walking by just like license plates, but it’s another thing to post it online for everyone to see.

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11 points

the public vin wont be a problem for this guy much longer

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19 points

Does this ever work? I just wonder what fuels this collective insanity. If it’s never worked before, is the goal to keep trying until it does and then constitutes legal precedent?

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No response means the magic gibberish has worked, and rejection means that they move on to the next step of paper terrorism. When they wind up in court they further dig in. It’s peak “us vs them” mindset.

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7 points

They’re stupid and their in-group are also mostly idiots.

Facebook and other platforms are partly culpable because they could stamp this out to prevent it was spreading, but they don’t care.

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18 points

Millions of people are saddled with bills they can’t pay and an uncaring and complicated bureaucracy they struggle to navigate because of poor education, then they find a community of people claiming to have the solution to all of their problems. It doesn’t have to work, they just have to believe it does and they will rationalize away any sign that it doesn’t. The sovcit community gives them a feeling of autonomy and control they will not easily part with.

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Those are just the most visible people due to their wealth and influence. For every rich sovcit there are probably a thousand in abject poverty. They live in rural areas, usually in mobile homes, and fly Gadsden flags. I’ve known several. Try working for an ISP as an installer or repairman and some might even take a few shots at you.

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They’re very seldom a poverty problem. I never post the ones who are just trying to desperately find a solution. The ones I post are all hardcore anti government lunatics who want to get everything for free.

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31 points

It has never worked, but there are people online pretending it has, which makes some people who aren’t very smart think maybe it’ll work for them, too.

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I see a huge untapped business opportunity in selling “how to” courses and templates to sovcits

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4 points

For fifty bucks I’ll tell you exactly how to make money scamming people.

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3 points

“does that actually work”

“No it never does… But it might work for us”

-Arrested development

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46 points

Sovcit probably shouldn’t post your entire VIN on the Internet either

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19 points

And full name, and zip code. Hell the account number probably isn’t a great idea either.

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7 points

I didn’t even notice.

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