cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/21396125

Stephen Starr in Hamtramck, Michigan
Mon 14 Oct 2024 11.00 EDT

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Oh they’re really gonna love how Trump handles Arabs

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Strawmen belong in fields, not comment sections.

Also: does every ml user have an allergy to pragmatic problem solving?

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“pragmatic” problem solving is killing all undocumented migrants to solve the housing and work shortages in the US.

Pragmatic problem solving was the excuse for the necessity of the Holocaust. Pragmatic problem solving is making black people count as two thirds a white person to appease fascists.

Pragmatic problem solving is a liberal appointing Hitler chancellor so commies don’t get power and Nazis stop doing violence.

Pragmatic problem solving is behind the worst human atrocities. Let’s not pretend it’s ever been good.

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Yes, yes they do. Pretty sure it’s either a bot farm or dumb ass undergrads…

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This is an article about why Arab-Americans are abandoning the Democrats for endorsing and materially supporting genocide, and the response is “Trump would be bad too!” Yea, of course he would be, Harris is so bad that she isn’t a solution either.

Also: does every ml user have an allergy to pragmatic problem solving?

What do you mean by this?

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Lol wait, this was already posted this thread? Is this just a bot account?

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You think they’re voting for trump? If so, you’re even dumber than you think they are

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I mean, it’s not like there’s any other viable candidate. I don’t like the two party system but it’s what we have and by voting any other way than Harris, it gives advantage to Trump.

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Her shitty policies and attitude toward the genocide of people in the Levant is what’s giving trump an advantage!

Her shitty attitude towards people calling on her not to support the genocide is what’s giving trump an advantage.

She had it in the bag when she called him weird but you can always rely on a democrat to steal defeat from the jaws of victory!

And you know for sure that democrats are going to turn on minorities and leftists once she loses the election rather than face up to the fact that they did everything themselves to avoid winning it.

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It’s like the trolley problem, except instead of the other track having fewer people, it has more, and it just loops back around to run over the people on the first track anyway. We should have sent the trolley on a completely different route decades ago.

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Oh look, anti-Arab racism from liberals already

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I think calling Arab-Americans stupid for refusing to vote for genocide is racist. Harris is handing Trump a victory because she can’t cease US support for Israel.

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The single issue: genocide

Why are you sheepdogging for genociders? You have always had the option of saying nothing and educating yourself instead.

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What is more important than supporting and normalizing genocide?

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well I’m gonna say… if enabling genocide doesn’t make you a single issue voter I suspect you’re morally deficient of an individual. Frankly while genocide is enough Harris has a number of issues you’re free to overlook by claiming people are ‘single issue’ just because a thread is covering a particular topic.

  • doesn’t support labor. (won’t commit to keeping khan, will break a strike whenever convenient)
  • won’t be effective at reducing inflation/cost of living.
  • won’t be effective at humane immigration.
  • won’t be effective at health care reform. both at a cost and medicinally via weed/psychedelics legalization.
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It is not a complex issue. There is a genocide and there are increasing calls to support those genociders electorally. Instead of supporting genociders, you should oppose them.

Liberals call “issues” complex in order to speak euphemistically about the horrible things they support. They do not actually have an understanding of the alleged complexity, it is just a lazy thought-terminating cliché. When you do understand something, you can discuss it directly. At the moment, you are apparently more afraid of using the word genocide than actually being complicut in it yourself. Is this the “complexity” you are referring to? Your personal discomfort? I suspect so.

Unless you’d like to explain how it does…

Being consistently against genocide is the first step towards actually fighting against it. I have set the bar very low. Can you clear it?

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There is no difference because Harris knows her good little gooses steppers will vote for her no matter what she does or who she kills.

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If this is a joke, it’s a very bad one. If it isn’t, good luck on pulling your head out of your ass.

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single issue voters

the single issue is the eradication of their families and friends

yeah man I wonder why they don’t support that

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Do you consider war crimes, mass murderand sending in our troops to assist in a far right wing colonial war – all done with our tax dollars to be a “single issue” like… school vouchers or Amtrak funding? It seems a very dishonest or at best an inaccurate method to weigh issues against each other.

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I mean their single issue is Harris supports murdering their friends and family via her Israel proxy. If you’re going to have a single issue to decide your vote I can’t think of a better one.

Personally Harris lost my vote for two main reasons:

  • her continued support of genocide. while its true israel has a right to defend itself, it doesn’t have a right to support of the US while doing so. we have laws on the books for this precise reason and they need to be enforced.
  • her unwillingness to commit to supporting labor. won’t commit to khan, will likely happily break a striking union whenever she can as evidenced by the train union and wouldn’t have ‘changed a thing’ comment.

There are a bunch of other things I could overlook but not those two. I jokingly sent my friend a message yesterday.

God it amazes me to watch a candidate who is part of a historically low approval admin go ‘im not wrong its the voters who are wrong’. repeatedly.

my friends response? ‘I can’t tell which candidate you’re talking about’ which was precisely my point.

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People here are already claiming that she’s secretly against Israel and will flip once she wins, they’re in for a surprise (if they’re even being genuine).

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I said it sarcastically once! Sorry!

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There is a perspective that the genocide will be the same under both. Maybe a few months ago, but bidens since stopped asking for a cease fire, and has literally sent troops to israel to defend them already.

Its less about voting for trump and more about how increasingly unpalatable its become for some to endorse the current administration. For example in Michigan, a lot of people in the third party movement have family overseas, and its hard to argue to them that they should care more about the theoretical distopia being shouted at them versus the very real one they have been living for a while now.

Put yourself in someone else’s shoes for once.

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If I didn’t care I wouldn’t comment. The perspective is materially absurd. Just because you can only change degrees doesn’t mean you can morally abdicate your responsibility to do so.

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Well unfortunately you don’t get to decide what someone else’s morals and values are. You seem to be doing a great job empathizing though. I’m sure your rhetoric is bringing voters to the democrats so keep up the good fight. 👍

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Super weird that your reaction to an article about how Kamala Harris is losing crucial Muslim support in Michigan is, “Nice try , Russians!” How brain-poisoned have you become that you’re rejecting inconvenient information?

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