cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/21396125

Stephen Starr in Hamtramck, Michigan
Mon 14 Oct 2024 11.00 EDT

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Her shitty policies and attitude toward the genocide of people in the Levant is what’s giving trump an advantage!

Her shitty attitude towards people calling on her not to support the genocide is what’s giving trump an advantage.

She had it in the bag when she called him weird but you can always rely on a democrat to steal defeat from the jaws of victory!

And you know for sure that democrats are going to turn on minorities and leftists once she loses the election rather than face up to the fact that they did everything themselves to avoid winning it.

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This is question-begging a number of critical elements, e.g. that the “rafts” cannot be influenced by “passenger” input, and that there is only this one, totalizing crossroad of literal, immediate survival.

We can do it too:

You’re in a runaway train accelerating toward a cliff and the break only really stops acceleration, it doesn’t decelerate. You can sit in the engine room and hold down the break, and you’ll live longer, but you aren’t changing the fundamental dynamic of the situation, which ends in your eventual death. Conversely, you can jump off the train, surely injuring yourself, possibly crippling yourself, maybe even killing yourself, but it’s the only potential way to change the dynamic of being doomed to fall off the cliff.

Does this prove anything? No, it’s just a model of how some people think of the problem, not an argument. It would be really obnoxious and disingenuous to present it as an argument.

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Maybe we should see if there’s any point of agreement, one step at a time.

Do you agree that either the Dem or Rep nominee will be the next president?

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This except the raft has a bunch of holes in it, is covered in blood, and by setting foot in it you are implicitly giving your consent to fund a genocide on the other side of the world, and then the raft sinks anyways in the last panel.

edit: Bright side, the water may not actually be that deep. At least it’s certainly not as deep as the peoples’ whom you would have sacrificed by getting on the raft. That’s just what people tell you, but they also told you the raft would be perfectly seaworthy in its battered state.

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A more accurate metaphor would be if the raft was uninflated and full of holes.

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passenger 1 - “Oh crud. Our boat is sinking. We are in great peril indeed.”

captain - “We’re going to be okay everyone, just get into this liferaft.”

Pulls out liferaft with a huge fucking hole in it.

passenger 1 - “Is this the only liferaft we’ve got?”

captain - “Yes, but don’t worry about the hole, it won’t sink and we’ll be fine I promise.”

passenger 2 - “Hey guys, I have a liferaft over here that doesn’t have a hole in it.”

captain - “Guys, that’s not important right now. Our boat is sinking.”

passenger 1 - “Eh, I guess I’ll go in that one.”

passenger 3 - “Sure me too, captain says we should - wait where’s captain?”

Looks up, in the distance sees captain floating away on functional liferaft.

captain - “So long fuckers!”

Passengers board remaining liferaft, liferaft sinks, the passengers die.

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Where you fucked up:

passenger 2 - “Hey guys, I have a liferaft over here that doesn’t have a hole in it.”

You can’t reach the other one with no holes.

One of 2 things is happening with this comment.

  1. You actually don’t know how FPTP voting works.

  2. You’re pretending to not know how FPTP voting works.

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I will note your liberal dem in this comic also didn’t get in the raft through their own inability to take the correct path regardless of the choices of others. which I think is pretty spot on for individuals like yourself.

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I think that’s a statement about how other people’s shitty voting decisions affect everyone.

Believe me, if I could just choose the president (life raft) myself with no other input, I would.

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